Author Topic: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation  (Read 4182 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline augustin717

  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 5,787
  • Faith: Dyophistie / anti-severian
Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« on: December 22, 2009, 04:37:34 AM »
I want to share with you a few videos (found on youtube) of the ritual lamenting of the dead, a ritual still alive in some places of the world.
These are from Romania where, although still alive for now, they might well die in a couple of generations, depending on the rhythm and forms of the modernization and secularization. To have them alive, and not as museum pieces, it takes a  living peasant world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02ayqTO6_Xg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIft77mTdpc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrSku_6NG9I&feature=related

Offline ialmisry

  • There's nothing John of Damascus can't answer
  • Strategos
  • ******************
  • Posts: 39,945
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2009, 10:29:51 AM »
I want to share with you a few videos (found on youtube) of the ritual lamenting of the dead, a ritual still alive in some places of the world.
These are from Romania where, although still alive for now, they might well die in a couple of generations, depending on the rhythm and forms of the modernization and secularization. To have them alive, and not as museum pieces, it takes a  living peasant world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02ayqTO6_Xg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIft77mTdpc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrSku_6NG9I&feature=related

I'm afraid most of the modern secular world is in denial that they are going to die.  We should lament the so called living.
Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
                           and both come out of your mouth

Offline ma2000

  • Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 287
  • Saint Anthony The Great
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2009, 11:00:49 AM »
It's a pity these old traditions are slowly lost...
Asemănându-te obiceiurilor râvnitorului Ilie şi urmând Botezătorului pe drepte cărări, Părinte Antonie, te-ai făcut locuitor pustiului şi ai întărit lumea cu rugăciunile tale. Pentru aceasta, roagă-te lui Hristos Dumnezeu, să mântuiască sufletele noastre.

Offline augustin717

  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 5,787
  • Faith: Dyophistie / anti-severian
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 11:07:36 AM »
When you think, it was within a culture/civilization similar to this, where the lamentations of the Great Saturday appeared.

Offline Tallitot

  • Archon
  • ********
  • Posts: 2,834
    • USCJ
  • Faith: Jewish(Conservative)
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 12:41:03 PM »
It is still done at the Maronite Catholic church in my town at some funerals and on Good Friday.
Proverbs 22:7

Offline Fr. George

  • formerly "Cleveland"
  • Administrator
  • Stratopedarches
  • *******
  • Posts: 20,314
  • May the Lord bless you and keep you always!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 12:46:40 PM »
I think the magnitude of the Lamentations only takes full shape when you have a culture that understands lamenting the departed.  How many lamentations do you say for a loved one?  10?  30?  50?  How many for the Son of God, Creator of the world?  117+! How long do we keep vigil for our loved ones before their burials? Half a day?  A full day?  How long for the Son of God, Creator of the world?  At least two full days?  The loss of the lamentation for the dead has likely affected our appetite for The Lamentations (which is still one of the most popular services in the entire year - but for many it has been shortened greatly).
"If you are going to serve the Lord, be prepared for times when you will be put to the test. Be sincere and determined. Keep calm when trouble comes. Stay with the Lord; never abandon Him and you will be prosperous at the end of your days. Accept whatever happens to you. Even if you suffer humiliation, be patient. Gold is tested by fire and human character is tested in the furnace of humiliation. Trust the Lord and He will help you. Walk straight in His ways and put your hope in Him. " Sir 2:1-6

Offline mike

  • Filthy Chalcedonian Liar
  • Protostrator
  • ***************
  • Posts: 23,299
  • Pray for Christians in Radom!
  • Faith: Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Diocese of Białystok and Gdańsk
Re: Ritual wailing/funeral lamentation
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 04:01:43 PM »
I remember almost the same scene from the first two videos when  my granmother passed away 9 years ago.
Pray for orthonorm (Jason)

Hyperdox Herman, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - fb, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - tt

not everything I typed before [insert current date] may reflect my current views on the subject