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Litia/Artoklasia at St. Basil's Vesperal Liturgy on Nativity Eve
« on: December 16, 2009, 05:04:12 PM »
The priest at the church wants to do the LItia service at the Great Vespers on Nativity Eve following the Royal Hours.  However, as this is a prescribed Vesperal Liturgy, I do not see how you can do this as Litia occurs before the Aposticha and there is no Aposticha at this Vespers.  I think my priest just wants to do it because it's cool and doesn't really have a good sense for the typicon.

The only time I can find a Litia and Artoklasia is at Great Compline following the Little Doxology.  But I'm pretty sure we're not doing that.

Am I correct in this?

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Re: Litia/Artoklasia at St. Basil's Vesperal Liturgy on Nativity Eve
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 05:44:37 PM »
Tell your priest he should check with his Bishop, I am guessing that his Bishop would tell him to either do it in its proper place during Great Compline of the Vigil, or after the Vesperal Liturgy or not to do it at all.
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Re: Litia/Artoklasia at St. Basil's Vesperal Liturgy on Nativity Eve
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 05:50:27 PM »
Tell your priest he should check with his Bishop, I am guessing that his Bishop would tell him to either do it in its proper place during Great Compline of the Vigil, or after the Vesperal Liturgy or not to do it at all. 

Yes, indeed.  The hierarchs are particularly cautious with innovating during a great feast (as they should be).  Definitely advise your priest to "clear" everything with the bishop first.
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Re: Litia/Artoklasia at St. Basil's Vesperal Liturgy on Nativity Eve
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 08:32:38 PM »
Tell your priest he should check with his Bishop, I am guessing that his Bishop would tell him to either do it in its proper place during Great Compline of the Vigil, or after the Vesperal Liturgy or not to do it at all. 

Yes, indeed.  The hierarchs are particularly cautious with innovating during a great feast (as they should be).  Definitely advise your priest to "clear" everything with the bishop first.


When i hear the word Litija ,Procession comes to mind am I correct..
ГОСПОДЕ ГОСПОДЕ ,ПОГЛЕДАЈ СА НЕБА ,ДОЂИ И ПОСЕТИ ТВОЈ ВИНОГРАД ТВОЈА ДЕСНИЦА ПОСАДИЛА АМИН АМИН.

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Re: Litia/Artoklasia at St. Basil's Vesperal Liturgy on Nativity Eve
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 09:57:42 PM »
When i hear the word Litija ,Procession comes to mind am I correct..

Essentially, yes, Litija (or Liti, Litia) is the procession of the icon.
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