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David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« on: December 16, 2009, 04:16:05 PM »
As a former Evangelical, I found this quaint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueUN_hJMKCg

Hopefully, more modern Protestants will become interested in ancient Christianity, and be led back to Holy Orthodoxy.
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 04:30:56 PM »
This reminds me of an album put out a few years ago by Passion:  Hymns Ancient and Modern.  I was at a Chris Tomlin show and he mentioned that he had a few songs on there where he and other bands (Dave Crowder included) had recorded some ancient hymns with a full band.  It turns out that, barring the Doxology and Phos Hilarion, the "ancient" hymns were mostly from the last 100 years.  ;)  By the way, the introduction he gave at the concert to the Phos Hilarion was to say that in the ancient church, the Phos Hilarion was chanted instead of sung so he had the crowd "chant" it by reading the words off a powerpoint screen.  

The track list to the CD:
1. O Worship the King
2. Doxology
3. Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee
4. Praise the Lord, the Almighty
5. Father Let Me Dedicate
6. How Great Thou Art
7. Raise Up the Crown (All Hail the Power of Jesus' Name)
8. All Creatures of Our God and King
9. The Solid Rock (On Christ the Solid Rock)
10. Phos Hilarion (Hail Gladdening Light)
11. Joyous Light
12. Here is Love
13. Fairest Lord Jesus
14. Take My Life

Like you said, hopefully they'll be led back to Holy Orthodoxy.
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 05:46:37 PM »
HATE IT!!!!  >:(
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 05:53:55 PM »
Ugh. That is a truly awful song. It's merely cacophony. I can't even understand the words for all the noise going on.

Okay, I am now officially old.
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 06:13:19 PM »
Terrible.

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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 06:17:06 PM »
Eh, well, I wouldn't call it awful. That's at least something :)

Btw, Cacophony was the name of an awesome speed metal band  :P

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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 06:28:59 PM »
All I'm saying is at least they're interested. That's how I started out. Heck, the first time I ever heard of the Jesus Prayer and chotkis was at an Evangelical youth conference (DCLA).
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 06:40:53 PM by samkim »
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 07:04:38 PM »
Totally sickening.  Taking the magnificent words of Phos Hilaron and putting it in a "whine rock" setting.  Where are the aesthetics police when you need them?
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 07:19:22 PM »
A good opportunity to plant some seeds.
Someone left this comment:
"This hymn in it's ancient form is still chanted in Orthodox Christian services. I am an Orthodox Christian. "
Perhaps a video response by someone might be good showing an Orthodox Choir chanting the hymn in English?
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 06:42:05 AM »
Truly horrible. What a travesty of a sublime Orthodox hymn! I've also heard western choirs (Anglican and RC) sing it, and it can be beautiful in such settings, but not, repeat, NOT, this schlocky version, devoid of any reverence. It makes Sister Janet Mead's groovy folk guitar version of the Lord's Prayer sound magnificent.  :P :P :P
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 10:48:45 PM »
O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWekq9bHtKU
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 08:38:45 AM »
I was thinking of this thread when I was listening to some 90's Whitecross material the other day. Not exactly the same, but in both situations, whatever the flaws, their hearts were in the right place.

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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2009, 09:28:36 AM »
I was thinking of this thread when I was listening to some 90's Whitecross material the other day. Not exactly the same, but in both situations, whatever the flaws, their hearts were in the right place.

I agree. And it often doesn't take much to kindle an interest in the Ancient Church. All it took for me was the worship leader/pastor of the contemporary worship band I was playing in within an "emergent church" setting telling me that there were groups adding services with robes and liturgy and candles as alternatives to contemporary services because these services reached a younger demographic that didn't relate to baby-boomer contemporary services.

I started checking it out and stumbled on Orthodoxy.

It was as simple as that.

Jesus said something to the effect, "Whoever is not against me is for me." I know He said almost the exact opposite in a different context, but I think in this case the positive assertion applies.

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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2009, 09:32:18 AM »
All I'm saying is at least they're interested. That's how I started out. Heck, the first time I ever heard of the Jesus Prayer and chotkis was at an Evangelical youth conference (DCLA).

How nice.  However God can be magnified, let it happen!
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2009, 09:33:16 AM »
I agree. And it often doesn't take much to kindle an interest in the Ancient Church. All it took for me was the worship leader/pastor of the contemporary worship band I was playing in within an "emergent church" setting telling me that there were groups adding services with robes and liturgy and candles as alternatives to contemporary services because these services reached a younger demographic that didn't relate to baby-boomer contemporary services.

I started checking it out and stumbled on Orthodoxy.

It was as simple as that.

Jesus said something to the effect, "Whoever is not against me is for me." I know He said almost the exact opposite in a different context, but I think in this case the positive assertion applies.

What a wonderful way to come to the Church! 
"O Cross of Christ, all-holy, thrice-blessed, and life-giving, instrument of the mystical rites of Zion, the holy Altar for the service of our Great Archpriest, the blessing - the weapon - the strength of priests, our pride, our consolation, the light in our hearts, our mind, and our steps"
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 10:13:41 AM »
I agree. And it often doesn't take much to kindle an interest in the Ancient Church. All it took for me was the worship leader/pastor of the contemporary worship band I was playing in within an "emergent church" setting telling me that there were groups adding services with robes and liturgy and candles as alternatives to contemporary services because these services reached a younger demographic that didn't relate to baby-boomer contemporary services.

I started checking it out and stumbled on Orthodoxy.

It was as simple as that.

Jesus said something to the effect, "Whoever is not against me is for me." I know He said almost the exact opposite in a different context, but I think in this case the positive assertion applies.

What a wonderful way to come to the Church! 
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Re: David Crowder Band sings Phos Hilaron
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 03:21:57 PM »

Perhaps a video response by someone might be good showing an Orthodox Choir chanting the hymn in English?

Yes, please someone do this! I don't have a youtube account otherwise I would.