But they don't: they don't there and they don't here.
They don't or they can't? You make it sound like it is sheerly impossible to change a culture.
Sure can. But not by denying that there is something wrong with it.
And IIRC, we were talking about a religion, certain sects of which are beyond repair.
But the objective of the school is not to pronounce one religion wrong and another right, and indeed that is the point of separation of church and state. What the schools are trying to do is simply introduce the idea that other religions are out there, people worship differently, and that they should not be persecuted simply because they're different. I agree with the schools on this that there should be no judgement therein because that would have the appearance that the school is endorsing one or the other.
And IIRC, religion is integral to culture. In whose judgement are certain sects "beyond repair", Isa?
It's very difficult and takes a lot of time but it's possible. It wasn't so long ago that you had to sit at the back of the bus if you were black. African Americans still deal with racism today but we're slowly changing people's minds.
You have to show them that they are in the wrong first. Islamists do not take constructive criticism from infidels.
All Islamists, huh?
If may want to make a distinction as to jurisdiction and law between here and there, but they a la fatwah against Salman Rushdie, do not.
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying here.
That if you think you being in SW MO makes a difference to Islamists, think again.
Um... ok. The sentence structure in the original quote makes no sense to me, so I'm not even sure how you got that idea from it.
I didn't say you did say anything racist, but the situation you describe is racism, IMO. I know there are cruel people in the world and I agree that we also have to teach our children to be wise as serpents, etc., etc. But then again, when you say people with beards and prayer callouses are going to hurt you, can you be 100% sure that every single one of those people is out to get you? Is there really no such thing as a non-violent devout Muslim (e.g.)?
Sure. Can you tell the difference?
I don't know any Muslims personally, to be honest, so I wouldn't be able to on my present experience. So enlighten me, what is the difference?
How would you interpret this "scripture"?:
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. Qur'an 5:51
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. 9:29.
You really expect me to apply a, what, 1300-ish year old text to a person in the world today? When someone says "Oh, those Christians are horrible people and I want nothing to do with them," do you not think to yourself, "Hey, we're not all alike, don't judge me by someone else's actions"?
but I don't think Christ called anyone His enemy until they identified themselves as His enemy. For us to do the same requires us to have either supernatural discernment or to know the individual instead of relying on racial/religious stereotypes to think for us.
Actually, quite the opposite: He did not need man's testimony about a man, for he knew what was in a man. John 2:25.
Indeed, He did. But do you? Do any of us, outside of the few deified on Earth, have the ability to know the heart of men without having met them before? Again, I say
For us to do the same requires us to have either supernatural discernment or to know the individual instead of relying on racial/religious stereotypes to think for us.
Not all of them are that dangerous. Some are safe for our purposes. I once was fine going to a Shi'ite shrine in Damascus filled with Iranian pilgrims, with a group of Hizbullah (with guns) who knew I had not submitted to Islam (btw, you are better off with Shi'ites then with Sunnis). And I don't blend in the Middle East crowd: I'm quite white with blue eyes. But I know what to say, ask etc. and handle a situation to winnow the Muslim wheat from the Islamist chaff. I don't think you do. Therefore, play it safe.
But again, you're categorizing people under a label and that, in effect, dehumanizes them. I don't doubt that you can make your way around the culture and I admit that I'm fairly ignorant of Middle Eastern custom, but I still don't believe that every single Sunni is out to get me.