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« on: December 16, 2003, 02:02:06 PM »

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Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested
Immigrants who fled persecution rally to tell 'truth about Islam'
Posted: November 25, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Art Moore
-¬ 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Hundreds of Christians who fled Egypt to the United States claiming
persecution under Islam showed up outside a Southern California middle
school yesterday to protest an extra-credit assignment urging students
to participate in the Muslim Ramadan fast.

The teacher at Royal Oak Intermediate School in Covina, Calif., wrote
parents of students in his world history class, saying he wanted to
take advantage of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan "to promote a
greater understanding and empathy towards the Muslim religion."

But on a public sidewalk adjacent to the school grounds yesterday
afternoon, about 500 people, according to organizers, gathered
peacefully to "tell the truth about Islam" as classes ended for the day.

A group called the American Middle-East Christian Association
maintains that at a time when discussions about Jesus Christ have been
barred from classrooms, the teacher is urging impressionable school
children to participate in a religion the group views as a threat to
America.

Ultimately, the protesters maintained, the teaching of Islam in a
public school is furthering the aim of making America a Muslim nation.

About 450 of the protestors were Coptic Christian immigrants from
Muslim-majority Egypt, whose families had suffered discrimination and
persecution because of their faith, said Steve Klein, who helped
organize the event.

"Many of them were in tears, thrilled that they could come out and
assert their First Amendment free-speech rights, which are found in no
Islamic nation," Klein told WorldNetDaily. "They had survived 14
centuries in Egypt by not getting involved in politics."

The public school is in the Charter Oak School District in a mostly
middle- class area at the east end of the San Gabriel Valley.

Superintendent John Roach insisted the teacher meant only to promote
empathy with Muslims, not with Islam.

He conceded the instructor told parents in his letter the assignment
was about empathizing with the Islamic religion.

"If I had the opportunity to correct the letter before it was sent
out, I would have changed that paragraph," he told WND.

Roach said he most certainly would have put a stop to the assignment
if it had been about promoting Islam and can understand why some
people would make an issue of it.

The letter to parents said students "may choose to fast for one, two
or three days. During this time, students may only drink water during
daylight hours. Once fasting is completed, students are to type a -+
page summary of their experience. They should describe how it felt to
go without food during the day and connect it to the theme of
sacrifice. Fasting is inconvenient and sometimes uncomfortable, many
religions to consider it an important sacrifice."

The teacher said he wished "to emphasize that this is an EXTRA CREDIT
assignment and is by no means mandatory. For those unable to fast,
they may choose to type a 2 page paper in which they compare different
religions that encourage sacrifice during the year."

Roach went over to the school, which has about 1,600 students, to
observe the protest yesterday and estimated the number of protesters
to be about 150.

"If in fact we had been inculcating one religion over another, I'm
thrilled that there were 150 people who recognize that that's what
schools should not be doing," said Roach.

But the official said he was "saddened" that organizers would mobilize
all those people to "believe what we're doing is training the next
generation of al-Qaida."

Roach noted, however, the protest was peaceful and orderly.

The Coptic Christians passed out literature and talked to many parents
about their personal experience of persecution under Islam, Klein
said, warning passersby that Islam is here to take over America.

"Many parents were very curious," Klein said. "They were stunned by
what their kids were being taught."

One parent objected to the protest, he said, but "changed his tune"
after the immigrants told their stories.

Many of the Coptic Christians who showed up are articulate
professionals, such as dentists and physicians, said Klein, a former
Marine officer who served in Vietnam.

After seeing how the First Amendment works, he noted, they said they
need to get together and organize to tell their message further.

"These people who have suffered have so much to offer [Americans] who
are sleeping, refusing to recognize the true nature of Islam," said
Klein, who said he has organized hundreds of protests, including many
that have confronted Islam, through a group he established called
Courageous Christians United.

Roach said he's been contacted by some of the Coptic Christians.

"Several people have called me on the phone and spoken to me, wanting
to make sure I'm teaching the Islamic religion is a murderous,
terrorist religion," he said.

But the superintendent argued, if he were to teach that, he would be
"just as guilty as I would be if I went the other way."

"I can't impede a religion any more than I can promote it," he said.

The teacher's letter to parents opened, "As part of the world history
curriculum, your student has recently been studying the rise of Islam
and the teachings of Mohammed. Fundamental to the Muslim religion are
the Five Pillars of Islam. They emphasize the 'word of God,' prayer,
charity for the poor, fasting and the pilgrimage to Mecca. During the
month of Ramadan, Muslims refrain from food or drink during daylight
hours."

Roach insisted the seventh-grade class presents a balanced view of
Islam, covering mostly the social implications of the religion's rise,
as part of a world history curriculum that begins with the Roman Empire.

As WorldNetDaily reported in January 2002, public school students at
Excelsior Elementary School in Byron, Calif., apparently were taken on
a deeper journey into Islam in which they pretended to be Muslims,
wore robes, simulated jihads via a dice game, learned the Five Pillars
of Faith and memorized verses from the Quran in classroom exercises as
part of a World History and Geography class for seventh-graders. The
class was included in the state's curriculum standards required by the
state board of education. These standards outline what subjects should
be taught and are included in state assessment tests, but don't
mandate how they're to be taught.

The Islam simulations at Excelsior are outlined in the state-adopted
textbook "Across the Centuries," published by Houghton Mifflin, which
prompts students to imagine they are Islamic soldiers and Muslims on a
Mecca pilgrimage.

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 02:20:07 PM »

EEEK! Another reason to homeschool.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2003, 02:16:22 PM »

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The Coptic Christians passed out literature and talked to many parents about their personal experience of persecution under Islam, Klein
said, warning passersby that Islam is here to take over America.

My mother is good friends with a Christian couple from Egypt (the wife was once a fellow co-worker of my mother's), who could tell similar horror stories as these Copts were telling to passer-bys.

The great problem in America is not so much religious freedom, but the ignorance which feeds a false "acceptance" of all religions and philosophies.  IOW, the idea that "all religions are basically the same".  Thus, no one wants to enterain the possibility that some religions/philosophies (save cartoonishly illegal examples, like hardcore satanism) are in fact a danger to the public good.

The comment I quote above, that they are "here to take America" is very true, at least for the more "devout".  According to Shari'iah, Muslims can only live "peaceably" and more or less cooperatively in a non-Islamic state, so long as they are unable to impose Shar'iah upon it's non-Muslim inhabitants (in other words, they are outnumbered, outgunned, etc.)  Ask a knowledgeable Muslim about this, or simply read a history book on the spread of Islam.

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2003, 08:33:42 PM »


The comment I quote above, that they are "here to take America" is very true, at least for the more "devout".  According to Shari'iah, Muslims can only live "peaceably" and more or less cooperatively in a non-Islamic state, so long as they are unable to impose Shar'iah upon it's non-Muslim inhabitants (in other words, they are outnumbered, outgunned, etc.)  Ask a knowledgeable Muslim about this, or simply read a history book on the spread of Islam.


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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2004, 10:22:16 PM »

+Irini nem ehmot

I'm not sure I like that my brother and sister Copts were protesting in the fashion that they did. I think it would have been more appropriate for them to simply refuse to do the assignment and send a written complain to the authorities.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 03:27:58 AM »

Honestly, as a Coptic Christian, I would never participate in this kind of protest. It is one thing to refuse to do the assignment, but to say that Muslims are here to take over America? That's too far for me. It not only fails to characterize the vast majority of Muslims, but it is also the antithesis of the Christian calling, which is to love, first and foremost. Creating strife and propaganda isn't gonna bring any Muslims to Christianity anytime soon. Unfortunately, in all my experiences with Coptic Christians, many are just so bitter because of the centuries of discrimination. It's hard to blame them, really, but that doesn't make their actions any more justified.

Edit: 2004?! Man, I thought this was under 'Recent Posts'. My bad, everybody. Moving on...
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