I visited a Coptic Church a few years ago and have to report I thought it weird to be banging the bongos while people were receiving the body and blood of Christ. It almost seemed westernized, moreso than any organ playing.
The Coptic Church westernized, haa. !!!!
By the way, this "weird" banging you are talking about has been there for 2000 years. It is the heritage of the Coptic Church since the Copts embraced Christianity. That it does sound weird to you does not make it weird. And these are definitly not western tones or melody. The music and devices used ( Tirianto for example) are from the time of the Pharaohs. So I see it hard to find it westernized, unless you consider the Copts since the First Century and before "westernized".
If I enter an RC church or Greek Orthodox church, it will be also very different to me, but I am enlightened enough not to judge others as weird because it is a different culture.
One thing we all know is that we did not succumb to "liberal" values as other did.
. As if there needed to be some measure of entertainment so people could "get into the spirit
That is your interpretation, maybe influenced by what you see in your church.
What spirit? I think that's an appropriate question
It is an approriate question. It is the spirit which kept us Orthodox in face of the persecution of the Roman Emperors, pagans like Deucletian and christians like the Justinian Murderer. The same spirit that kept christianity in Egypt under the very severe persecution for 2000 years. The same spirit which was passed from St.Mark to St.Athanasius, if you happen to know him, and St. Cyril the Pillar of Faith, St. Discorous and till now still living in H.H. Pope Shenouda. By the way, these are Alexandrian Fathers, not Byzantine. It is the spirit which will keep the church according to THE LORD's word in Isiah 19:19. We don't compromise.
"You know them from their fruits".Judging by our fruits, we are sure that we are right.
A 5th century schism that hasn't been totally resolved... A disagreement over the 7 ecumenical councils that are considered the foundation of the Eastern Orthodox Church
There are tons of questions which your dear friend Linus could not answer and just passed by in other topics, maybe you can lend a hand in answering them. Three chapter, Theodret, not holding a trial against St.Dioscorous, The TOme of Leo, Leo's connection to Theodret, ..... and many others. Please let us know your perspective.
I would say that Linus was right in offering an alternate view, given the controversial arrangement between the two separate churches
He never did. He just reposted lies. If I am discussing an issue with Catholics, I will not resort to Catholic-hate.com site. These are empty slogans, aimed to stop any unity efforts. He had the chance to reply in many other topics, never did. He was just aiming to scare any truth seekers away.
In any case, if your patriarchs so not see a problem with OO theology, but you find some, you have two options:
1- There are problems with our theology, and we would be happy if you can point them out. But in this case, your patriarchs are ignorant.
2- You are wrong, and therefore you are disobedient to your hierachs. Many EO churches, recognizing that no problems in Faith exist, give communion to OO. That is serious business.
I think it would be more constructive for those who have such strong opinions against Linus to review his resources and point out where they are in error.
Go search the topics and you find many of the topics discussed. There has been specific points asked by Deacon peter and Antonius, Mor , Raouf, and others and Linus could or would not reply.
In the end, Linus, in a discussion in the Orthodox-Catholics forum, wanted OO specifically to get out of the discussion and go to their little plot, this forum. When somebody shows interest in knowing the Oriental Orthodox Churches, he immediatly intrudes and propagates his repeated articles from this hateful sites he gets his info from.
The topics Linus opened are discussed in plenty of other topics, why reposting it here again ?
If you are interested in a real discussion, you will find many topics discussing the differences between EO and OO.