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« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2003, 01:02:59 PM »
Well, I still have not seen the third film. I loved the first two, but, since ania is bringing up disappointments, my biggest is that Tom Bombadil and his wife Goldberry were left out.

However, I realize Jackson could not really be entirely faithful to the books without producing a 30 or 40-hour film.

Tis a pity, though.
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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2003, 02:37:11 PM »
Well, I still have not seen the third film. I loved the first two, but, since ania is bringing up disappointments, my biggest is that Tom Bombadil and his wife Goldberry were left out.


I agree--would've liked to have seen Tom and Goldberry.  Also, I wish he would have filmed the "Scouring of the Shire".  Oh well.  Jackson still did an outstanding job.  :)
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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2003, 02:39:48 PM »
One day, I'll read the whole book into a mic, and sell it for profit.

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Re:LORD OF THE ROAC
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2003, 02:49:12 PM »
Well, I still have not seen the third film. I loved the first two, but, since ania is bringing up disappointments, my biggest is that Tom Bombadil and his wife Goldberry were left out.

However, I realize Jackson could not really be entirely faithful to the books without producing a 30 or 40-hour film.

Tis a pity, though.


While I too lament the ommission of Tom Bombadil, Jackson made a good point when asked why he didn't film it.  Tom Bombadil is very much a literary character, one that sticks in the head while the rest of the story is being read.  However, on film, he would largely be forgotten and the whole scene would be reduced to, "What the heck was that guy doing traipsing through the woods singing?"

Plus, since Tom handles the Ring and is unaffected by it, it would defeat Jackson's showcasing that everyone who handles the Ring is somehow affected by it, even though in the books Tom and Faramir escape its influence.

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« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2003, 02:52:18 PM »
Maybe, but I still think it's too bad he left Tom out.

Robin Williams would have been good in the part.
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« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2003, 03:01:35 PM »

Plus, since Tom handles the Ring and is unaffected by it, it would defeat Jackson's showcasing that everyone who handles the Ring is somehow affected by it, even though in the books Tom and Faramir escape its influence.


Good point--I was telling my wife the same thing about Tom and how he was able to see Frodo when he put on the ring.
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« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2003, 03:02:11 PM »
Maybe, but I still think it's too bad he left Tom out.

Robin Williams would have been good in the part.

That would have been funny.  ;)
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« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2003, 03:07:17 PM »
Maybe, but I still think it's too bad he left Tom out.

Robin Williams would have been good in the part.

That would have been funny.  ;)

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Yeah, remember Robin Williams in the early portion of Jumanji?

When I saw that I thought, "Tom Bombadil!"
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« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2003, 02:31:53 AM »
Well, I've read the trilogy, multiple times, & I know in the end it tells about all that happens to everyone, which is why i was a bit disapointed that it only focused on the hobbits, rather than say what happened to Aragon, Gimli, etc...  Also it didn't say that Sam, toward the end of his life, also went to the Elves.  

Actually there isn't that much in the books that wasn't in the movie.  In the book it just mentions that Gimli & Legolas were to travel together, and there is nothing more with Aragorn after they leave for the Shire.  Everything that you are remembering(including Sam going to the Grey Havens) is from the Appendix, not the novel itself.  Of course, Jackson did choose to bring a few things from the appendix into the body of the story(most of the Parts with Arwen) and it would have been nice to have included these things.  Perhaps a few will be on the extended DVD.
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« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2003, 10:27:43 AM »
There is a rumor on THEONERING.net that the Extended verstion of ROTK will be 4 hours and 50 minutes long!   :o   Apparently this is based on comments that both Peter Jackson and Ian McKellen have made.
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« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2003, 01:39:01 PM »
Well, I still have not seen the third film. I loved the first two, but, since ania is bringing up disappointments, my biggest is that Tom Bombadil and his wife Goldberry were left out.

However, I realize Jackson could not really be entirely faithful to the books without producing a 30 or 40-hour film.

Tis a pity, though.

Tom and Goldie - while interesting and fun were not necessary to the story line, hence they were the first to go.  Tolkein himself said that they were an aside within the story.  I need to re-read the books no after having watched all three movies. :) I'm sure they will be fresh and new now :).
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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2003, 03:41:34 PM »
I really want to learn Elvish.  Anyone know of any classes offered anywhere?  

(I'm glad my wife is not here right now -- she'd call me a big DORK!)

Here you go, I thought I could find something:

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qcourse.htm

An on-line down loadable course in Quenya.  I found it and alot more here at "Ardalambion" "Of the tongues of Arda":

http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/

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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2003, 03:45:20 PM »
I'd like to see a good Dune movie or a good version of the Chroniles of Narnia or even one of Anne McCafferys books done into a movie. :)

From the New Zealand news service, an article about the up coming movie of "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe":

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2761539a1870,00.html

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« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2003, 05:30:07 PM »
COOL!!  I hope that he does a good job!  Nothing worse than a bad version of a good story.  ei: Dune.
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