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Need advice for books
« on: December 12, 2003, 10:54:33 AM »
Hullo all...At work I chose to buy books for a boy age 15 categories Informational/SciFi/Fantasy....

NOW...OBVIOUSLY...LOTR  ;D....BUT...any suggestions for informational? No religious themes allowed, and I have no idea about reading levels, here, as this is totally "blind"...I'd appreciate any thoughts by the weekend.

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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2003, 11:43:21 AM »
What about Terry Pratchett. I love his books and find them relaxing, amusing and refreshing.

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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2003, 11:59:57 AM »
For informational

Beginner's Guide to Chess
An Introduction to Computer Programming
Philosophy and Ethics introductions

If he wants Sci Fi/Fantasy, he's probably bright enough so that these challenge him but do not go over his head completely.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2003, 12:53:04 PM »
Good Omens is a joint novel written by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.  As such it blends their writing styles... Terry Pratchett is most well known for a series called Discworld.  I haven't read it, but my roomate likes it a lot.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2003, 02:53:42 PM »
I have all the Pratchett books as well, except the latest in hardback waiting to be Christmas present for me.

I think they are a rollicking good read and the allusions get picked up more and more with every revisit. Maybe a 15 year old would not get them all but he'd get some and more each time he read them.

Anyone like Alan Foster and the Spellsinger series?

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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2003, 03:19:07 PM »
I've pretty much left the world of Sci-Fi/Fantasy (other than Tolkien of course).  I might pick up some more Asimov or Heinlein one day.
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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2003, 09:10:38 PM »
The Kingfisher Book of the Ancient World: From the Ice Age to the Fall of Rome

Letters to a Young Conservative - by D'Souza, Dinesh


This next one is a great one since it is written by teen himself:

Seen and Heard - by Williams, Kyle


also very good:

The Fallacy Detective - Bluedorn, Nathaniel and Hans

all of these books are available at the best book club out there - http://www.conservativebookclub.com


and in the sci-fi/fantasy genre - CS Lewis has Both out there - the Chronicles of Narnia and Out of the Silent Planet
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2003, 09:39:47 PM »
check out seen and heard.  It's suppose dto be a very good book and the fact that it is written by one of their peers will help get a teen to read it.  AND it espouses good old CONSTERVATIVE values and shoots the lefts arguments full of holes :D
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2003, 09:40:06 PM »
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I might pick up some more Asimov

Years ago, back when one went to libraries for knowledge and information, I remember being enamored with a book by Asimov that went through each element of the periodic table.  I loved that book and checked it out several times, IIRC I racked up some good late fees for my parents with it too :)

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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2003, 09:56:35 PM »
When I was about 12 my favorite books were -

A Wrinkle In Time
by Madeleine L'Engle

and

The Hero and the Crown
by Robin McKinley
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2003, 10:03:34 PM »
Understanding Physics is another good one by Asimov.  A bit more in depth and requires some math knowledge (no calculus).  I actually own this one, I would pick up Building Blocks too if I saw it on a shelf (having a youngin' on the way :) )
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2003, 10:09:16 PM »
I have that book.  I didn't like it because, if I recall correctly, it didn't use metric measurements in explaining things.  Otherwise, it is pretty nice.
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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2003, 06:36:33 PM »
"How to Lie with Statistics"  an important explanation of how to tell if someone is trying to fool you with numbers, graphs, percentages and so forth.  A slim volume, but still in print as far as I know.  A copy ought to be given to ever high school student in the world...imho.

Science Fiction:  "Dune" by Herbert,  The "Mageworld" books by Doyle and Macdonald (I confess, I know them.  Good space opera). Hal Clement (may he rest in Peace, he died recently) wrote some great "hard science" SF.)  "The Lathe of Heaven" by LeGuin, but not her more recent works...

I'll try to think of some more.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2003, 12:53:14 AM »
"How to Lie with Statistics"  an important explanation of how to tell if someone is trying to fool you with numbers, graphs, percentages and so forth.  

I have this book!!
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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2003, 03:19:01 AM »
"How to Lie with Statistics"  an important explanation of how to tell if someone is trying to fool you with numbers, graphs, percentages and so forth.  

I have this book!!

Isn't it standard issue to politicians.  >:(
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2003, 08:26:44 AM »
Conceptual Physics ny Paul Hewitt.  It is a great book that helps one understand the concepts without a heavy reliance on mathematics.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2003, 10:25:12 AM »
I have reread some of the old favourites of mine from my youth, like starship troopers and I was rather surprised to find them a bit too xenophoic for my taste. I'm not PC at all but some old Sci-Fi has a very low opinion of aliens.

A bit like re-reading Biggles I suppose

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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2003, 01:40:06 PM »
I can attest to Dune. It was a good read. I believe the series is good, but I only read to the third one. Another good sci fi book is Strangers in a Strange Land, by Heinlein. A little disclaimer though...I was unchurched when I read these, and I might think otherwise if I read them today.

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2003, 02:22:44 PM »
One addendum, I like Stranger in a Strange Land for it's social commentary and interesting ideas, but it is a very sexual book, and might not be appropiate for a minor.
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2003, 03:14:29 PM »
Am I too late to contribute?  Listening to CBC radio today, I heard some great book reviews for kids/teen books.  Here's a link to a listing of the books that were discussed:

http://www.cbc.ca/soundslikecanada/

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2003, 07:59:14 PM »
"How to Lie with Statistics"  an important explanation of how to tell if someone is trying to fool you with numbers, graphs, percentages and so forth.  

I have this book!!

Isn't it standard issue to politicians.  >:(

No, no, Peter.  I've always read the point of this book to show how it is done, so that the reader will *not* be fooled by advertisements, politicians and such like.

Some of the Heinlein 'juvies' like "Star Beast" "Farmer in the Sky" and "Starman Jones" might be good and not as 'adult' as "Stranger".  "Startide Rising" and the others in that series by David Brin are good too.  And C.J. Cherryh's SF is well done.

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Re:Need advice for books
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2003, 10:54:09 PM »
"How to Lie with Statistics"  an important explanation of how to tell if someone is trying to fool you with numbers, graphs, percentages and so forth.  

I have this book!!


Isn't it standard issue to politicians.  >:(
NAH it tells you how too see THROUGH the lies, they tend to believe their own lies!
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