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« Reply #90 on: Today at 11:32:53 AM »

Wait...so by that logic, I am St. Shenouda the Archimandrite? Alright! Time to go beat up some pagans! Cool
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« Reply #91 on: Today at 12:13:17 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.
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« Reply #92 on: Today at 12:14:58 PM »

Wait...so by that logic, I am St. Shenouda the Archimandrite? Alright! Time to go beat up some pagans! Cool

At least you get to beat them up.  In my case, they crucify me! 
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« Reply #93 on: Today at 12:16:41 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.

How very interesting. Yet you demand of others to provide "proofs" of their statements on many matters of faith. Sauce for the goose ....
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« Reply #94 on: Today at 12:17:55 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.

OK, but I think it's difficult to take your local experience of however many years and turn it into a general, widely applicable principle without something more substantial to back it up.  
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« Reply #95 on: Today at 12:19:51 PM »

Can we put this to rest?

What would you like to talk about instead?
Orange marmalade of course!

Sigh...I love orange marmalade.  I'm trying a new brand, and it's more bitter than I'm used to...not bad, but I prefer something sweeter.  But that's a story for another thread. 
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« Reply #96 on: Today at 12:22:37 PM »

Can we put this to rest?

What would you like to talk about instead?
Orange marmalade of course!

Sigh...I love orange marmalade.  I'm trying a new brand, and it's more bitter than I'm used to...not bad, but I prefer something sweeter.  But that's a story for another thread. 
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« Reply #97 on: Today at 01:07:40 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.

OK, but I think it's difficult to take your local experience of however many years and turn it into a general, widely applicable principle without something more substantial to back it up.  
Except I'm not doing that. Wink If you wish to read gross generalizations into what I'm saying, that's up to you. I'm only speaking for myself and what insistence that everyone address me only by my Christian name means to me.
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« Reply #98 on: Today at 01:08:37 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.

How very interesting. Yet you demand of others to provide "proofs" of their statements on many matters of faith. Sauce for the goose ....
The difference between you and me, however, is that I'm not asserting my own opinions as any kind of absolute truth.
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« Reply #99 on: Today at 01:26:26 PM »

Taking on the name of and putting myself under the patronage of St. Peter the Aleut is not LARP. Pretending to be St. Peter the Aleut (e.g., by refusing to allow anyone to address me by any other name) when I'm not is. That's what I'm talking about.

This is a rather strange idea, that insisting on one's baptismal name rather than "any other name" is an attempt at pretending to be a probably long-dead holy person from the past.  Where did you learn this? 
It's not anything I've learned, necessarily. It's more of a point of view I've developed after years of experience at my home parish and visiting other nearby parishes.

OK, but I think it's difficult to take your local experience of however many years and turn it into a general, widely applicable principle without something more substantial to back it up.  
Except I'm not doing that. Wink If you wish to read gross generalizations into what I'm saying, that's up to you. I'm only speaking for myself and what insistence that everyone address me only by my Christian name means to me.

Whether it is a general, widely applicable principle which you consider true and authoritative only for yourself or a principle which you believe others should adopt as well, my point still stands.  It's the same point I made to LBK earlier.  Years of local experience with nothing more substantial to back it up really don't amount to much.  I wouldn't want to establish myself on such a foundation, but whatever floats your boat. 
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