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Anastasios
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2003, 12:37:31 PM » |
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He is Top Poster because Admins and Global Mods are exempt from this high honor  anastasios |
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Please Buy My Book!Past posts reflect stages of my life before my baptism may not be accurate expositions of Orthodox teaching. Also, I served as an Orthodox priest from 2008-2013, before resigning.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2003, 01:29:31 PM » |
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oh gimme a week or two and I'll pass linus  and have fun doing it!! I'm already catching up to vicki |
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"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2003, 01:36:43 PM » |
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I'm a chatter box what can I say  |
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"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2003, 05:06:56 PM » |
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vicki: I've looked at things over "there" and laughed. Nuff said.
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"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2003, 05:10:22 PM » |
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I don't know how you folks have the time to rack up so many posts. I'm only here so much at the mo because other lists I'm on are pretty quiet just now, although this is a spiritually beneficial place and it's well worth the time. I must admit to keeping refreshing the front page a lot just waiting for US folks to wake up.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2003, 05:14:42 PM » |
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I pop in between classes and when I'm not doing anything better.  I have to find more to occupy my time!! Then to, I'm not one to post marathon posts. I try to keep mine to under 6 pages unlike some of the other posters here. |
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"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2003, 05:14:47 PM » |
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huh - and us folk on this side of the pond miss all the fun  It's that time difference thing again |
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"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
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Linus7
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2003, 11:14:00 PM » |
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Thanks for the compliments, folks.
I'm still behind the Emperor Dustinian.
It feels a little strange being the "Top Poster" when that title was born so long and honorably by our recently departed friend and brother, Hypo.
God rest his soul.
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2003, 11:27:10 PM » |
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oh gimme a week or two and I'll pass linus and have fun doing it!! I'm already catching up to vicki I don't doubt it at all. I am amazed at the number of posts you have already. I enjoy reading them. |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2003, 12:41:45 AM » |
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On another forum I occasionally visit a guy joined and went from 1 post to 10,000 posts in less than three months. That guy was hardcore. |
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"When looking at faults, use a mirror, not a telescope."
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2003, 01:05:57 AM » |
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On another forum I occasionally visit a guy joined and went from 1 post to 10,000 posts in less than three months. That guy was hardcore. Sounds like amphetamine abuse. |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2003, 02:10:02 AM » |
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Thanks for the compliments, folks.
I'm still behind the Emperor Dustinian.
It feels a little strange being the "Top Poster" when that title was born so long and honorably by our recently departed friend and brother, Hypo.
God rest his soul. Linus, you just passed our Emperor Dustinian by 1..you truly are our Top Poster! Memory Eternal to our brother John, former holder of the illustrious postion! I am a bit discouraged that Serge and Keble are not posting like they used to. I really miss their posts. No offense to everyone else, but the place is a lot duller without those two. |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2003, 03:19:18 AM » |
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Hi Linus,
We really miss you at CF too. Now I know where you are hiding out.
Elizabeth-Maria
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« Last Edit: December 20, 2003, 03:55:20 AM by Maria »
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2003, 12:52:42 PM » |
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Hi Linus,
We really miss you at CF too. Now I know where you are hiding out.
Elizabeth-Maria
I post at CF from time to time, but, honestly, that place really irritates me. Too many obnoxious Calvinists and whacky Neo-Judaizers ("Messianic Jews"). I also have some strong reservations about the stated purpose of that web site: "Uniting all Christians in One Body." There is no way we can be one with heretics. No way. That does not mean I hate them or wish them ill; but how can I be united in one body with those who believe the Divine Liturgy (or the Mass) is blasphemous idolatry? Or that God is an arbitrary Player of Pawns? Life is too short for the anger that CF generates in me. And I live too far from my Church to be able to go to confession every day! |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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Maria
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2003, 01:02:24 PM » |
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Hi Linus,
We really miss you at CF too. Now I know where you are hiding out.
Elizabeth-Maria
I post at CF from time to time, but, honestly, that place really irritates me. Too many obnoxious Calvinists and whacky Neo-Judaizers ("Messianic Jews"). I also have some strong reservations about the stated purpose of that web site: "Uniting all Christians in One Body." There is no way we can be one with heretics. No way. That does not mean I hate them or wish them ill; but how can I be united in one body with those who believe the Divine Liturgy (or the Mass) is blasphemous idolatry? Or that God is an arbitrary Player of Pawns? Life is too short for the anger that CF generates in me. And I live too far from my Church to be able to go to confession every day! Dear Linus: I see your point. I've been avoiding IDD for that reason. However, it seems that some of the misunderstandings between Orthodox and Catholics have been cleared up, even our differences with birth control. However, the divorce threads are always full of thorns. |
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2003, 01:08:28 PM » |
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Hi Linus,
We really miss you at CF too. Now I know where you are hiding out.
Elizabeth-Maria
I post at CF from time to time, but, honestly, that place really irritates me. Too many obnoxious Calvinists and whacky Neo-Judaizers ("Messianic Jews"). I also have some strong reservations about the stated purpose of that web site: "Uniting all Christians in One Body." There is no way we can be one with heretics. No way. That does not mean I hate them or wish them ill; but how can I be united in one body with those who believe the Divine Liturgy (or the Mass) is blasphemous idolatry? Or that God is an arbitrary Player of Pawns? Life is too short for the anger that CF generates in me. And I live too far from my Church to be able to go to confession every day! Dear Linus: I see your point. I've been avoiding IDD for that reason. However, it seems that some of the misunderstandings between Orthodox and Catholics have been cleared up, even our differences with birth control. However, the divorce threads are always full of thorns. I don't consider Roman Catholics heretics, Maria. I have no problem with them. It's the other weirdos over at CF that bug me. |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2003, 01:34:23 PM » |
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I don't consider Roman Catholics heretics, Maria.
I have no problem with them.
Hi Linus Do you consider Roman Catholicism as a theological system to be heretical though, from an Orthodox persepective? PT |
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2003, 01:47:27 PM » |
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I don't consider Roman Catholics heretics, Maria.
I have no problem with them.
Hi Linus Do you consider Roman Catholicism as a theological system to be heretical though, from an Orthodox persepective? PT You know, I am not really familiar enough with all the details of the system to make such a judgment. |
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The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2003, 02:04:33 PM » |
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But are you familiar with what the Orthodox Church says about such a system?
PT
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2003, 02:05:43 PM » |
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Hi Linus,
We really miss you at CF too. Now I know where you are hiding out.
Elizabeth-Maria
I post at CF from time to time, but, honestly, that place really irritates me. Too many obnoxious Calvinists and whacky Neo-Judaizers ("Messianic Jews"). I also have some strong reservations about the stated purpose of that web site: "Uniting all Christians in One Body." There is no way we can be one with heretics. No way. That does not mean I hate them or wish them ill; but how can I be united in one body with those who believe the Divine Liturgy (or the Mass) is blasphemous idolatry? Or that God is an arbitrary Player of Pawns? Life is too short for the anger that CF generates in me. And I live too far from my Church to be able to go to confession every day! Dear Linus: I see your point. I've been avoiding IDD for that reason. However, it seems that some of the misunderstandings between Orthodox and Catholics have been cleared up, even our differences with birth control. However, the divorce threads are always full of thorns. I don't consider Roman Catholics heretics, Maria. I have no problem with them. It's the other weirdos over at CF that bug me. Dear Linus: Notice that I didn't use the word heretic either. The other weirdos I also avoid, unless they ask sincere questions. Some are now expressing an interest in Orthodoxy. I wait for them to come to the Ancient Way forum -- some are attracted to the catchy title of a thread. Then they start digging and some ultimately convert to Orthodoxy. Threrefore, I think it's important to make the title as attractive as possible, without lying. Do you have very many inquirers over here who just chanced to come upon this site by God's grace? Or is the google crawler helping you? Yours in Christ, Elizabeth-Maria |
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2003, 05:49:47 PM » |
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I don't consider Roman Catholics heretics, Maria.
Well of couse not silly! They are schismatics! |
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2003, 12:00:02 AM » |
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But are you familiar with what the Orthodox Church says about such a system?
PT
Is there a definitive statement from the whole Orthodox Church on Roman Catholicism, or must we hunt for a probable consensus of opinion, as on other issues? If you know of such a statement, please post it. I am reluctant to swing the sword of a heresy charge against other apostolic Christians. That sword has two edges and a sharp point. The leading edge might be aimed at the RCC, but the other edge might just as easily wound those who question the legitimacy of any of the councils regarded by the Orthodox Church as ecumenical. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2003, 04:28:34 AM » |
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I am not afraid of any charge of heresy. There is no heresy in the Oriental Orthodox Churches.
Do you not consider:
Papal Supremacy
Papal Infallibility
The Filioque
to be doctrinal innovvations? And condemned by the Orthodox Church?
I don't get the sense that you accept the encyclical of your Patriarchs as being authoritative so I guess it will be difficult for me to find any authoritative EO statement which you will accept which criticeses these later doctrines? What level of authority would be necessary?
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2003, 12:10:42 AM » |
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I am not afraid of any charge of heresy. There is no heresy in the Oriental Orthodox Churches.
Do you not consider:
Papal Supremacy
Papal Infallibility
The Filioque
to be doctrinal innovvations? And condemned by the Orthodox Church?
I don't get the sense that you accept the encyclical of your Patriarchs as being authoritative so I guess it will be difficult for me to find any authoritative EO statement which you will accept which criticeses these later doctrines? What level of authority would be necessary?
PT
Well, some might argue that rejection of any of the Seven Ecumenical Councils of the Church amounts to heresy. I really do not know why you pursued me into this thread in an attempt to get me to call Roman Catholics heretics. I refuse to do what you want me to do, just as I refuse to call you a heretic. Get hold of one of the ROAC guys. They will give you all you want to know on the RCC and stuff you don't want to hear about your own church (and probably mine), as well. |
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