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« Reply #90 on: October 06, 2014, 09:56:16 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
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« Reply #91 on: October 06, 2014, 09:58:54 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
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« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2014, 10:08:45 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!
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« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2014, 10:11:25 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!

Sorry, boys. At the ceremony where I came of age and received my secret decoder ring, I swore a solemn oath never to reveal the sacred mysteries of Southern culture.
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« Reply #94 on: October 06, 2014, 10:16:07 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!

Sorry, boys. At the ceremony where I came of age and received my secret decoder ring, I swore a solemn oath never to reveal the sacred mysteries of Southern culture.

but..but...I'm kind of in the south....Missouri is kind of southern right?
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« Reply #95 on: October 06, 2014, 10:47:12 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!

Sorry, boys. At the ceremony where I came of age and received my secret decoder ring, I swore a solemn oath never to reveal the sacred mysteries of Southern culture.

but..but...I'm kind of in the south....Missouri is kind of southern right?

Seriously?
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« Reply #96 on: October 06, 2014, 10:49:59 AM »

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« Reply #97 on: October 06, 2014, 10:53:10 AM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!

Sorry, boys. At the ceremony where I came of age and received my secret decoder ring, I swore a solemn oath never to reveal the sacred mysteries of Southern culture.

but..but...I'm kind of in the south....Missouri is kind of southern right?

It's the Midwest.
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« Reply #98 on: October 06, 2014, 11:31:50 AM »

 
Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Me too! me too!

Sorry, boys. At the ceremony where I came of age and received my secret decoder ring, I swore a solemn oath never to reveal the sacred mysteries of Southern culture.

but..but...I'm kind of in the south....Missouri is kind of southern right?

It's the Midwest.
I know lol but there are parts of it that seem more southern than many of the southern states I've visited Tongue
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« Reply #99 on: October 06, 2014, 11:40:27 AM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

My kids will never see a TV.
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« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2014, 12:22:30 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

My kids will never see a TV.

Not quite destroyed, but on life support in ICU certainly!
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« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2014, 12:49:45 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2014, 01:01:55 PM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Beer, pork barbecue, grits, collards, and okra just for a start.  Grin   Oh yeah, and American Pit Bull terriers.

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« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2014, 01:53:55 PM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Beer, pork barbecue, grits, collards, and okra just for a start.  Grin   Oh yeah, and American Pit Bull terriers.

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« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2014, 01:54:58 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.
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« Reply #105 on: October 06, 2014, 02:38:30 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

I feel you on that. White trash and Southern are seen mostly as the same thing.

I have a few Southern ways. I am fine with gun ownership (though I hate the whole gun nut culture for its materialism), and I've hunted quite a bit. I like traditional Southern/Appalachian music (traditional, not bluegrass or country), and I play the mandolin. My accent is pretty strong. That's about it. I also think "Southern" food is putrid.

Living here my whole life, I don't buy into the stereotype that Southerners are all fat, stupid, hypocritical, and ignorant. Yes, 90% of people here are that way, but most Americans are that way as well. It's not a Southern problem, it's an American one.

As a side note, the evangelical Southerners aren't as religious as you think. It's a facade. Let's see one of their pastors publicly state that he opposes US military involvement in the Middle East, and see how many members his church has.

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« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2014, 03:00:34 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.
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« Reply #107 on: October 06, 2014, 03:02:44 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.

What I said was a joke. I am pretty cool with Catholics. I regularly attended Catholic Mass for most of this year. I was mocking the Southern evangelical hatred of Catholics.
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« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2014, 03:04:20 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.

What I said was a joke. I am pretty cool with Catholics. I regularly attended Catholic Mass for most of this year. I was mocking the Southern evangelical hatred of Catholics.

Yes, I am aware of that. Most folks in the deep south think that Orthodoxy is the RC Church without the Pope.
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« Reply #109 on: October 06, 2014, 03:06:30 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.

What I said was a joke. I am pretty cool with Catholics. I regularly attended Catholic Mass for most of this year. I was mocking the Southern evangelical hatred of Catholics.

Yes, I am aware of that. Most folks in the deep south think that Orthodoxy is the RC Church without the Pope.

Most of them aren't aware that it exists.
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I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern.

Exactly.
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« Reply #111 on: October 06, 2014, 03:23:29 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.

What I said was a joke. I am pretty cool with Catholics. I regularly attended Catholic Mass for most of this year. I was mocking the Southern evangelical hatred of Catholics.

Yes, I am aware of that. Most folks in the deep south think that Orthodoxy is the RC Church without the Pope.

Most of them aren't aware that it exists.

Yes, it is the best kept secret.
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« Reply #112 on: October 06, 2014, 03:43:50 PM »

And honestly I think the Greeks get a bad rap (along with other so-called "ethnic" Orthodox, but my experience is primarily with the Greeks.) I'm getting just a wee bit irked with folks constantly piling on "those Greeks." For the record, I have been welcomed warmly whenever I have visited any Orthodox Church of any jurisdiction.
The first Divine Liturgy I attended as a visitor (not even an inquirer, conversion was the furthest thing from my mind) was a Greek Orthodox parish, and the people couldn't have been nicer. I was invited to stay for coffee hour, Sunday School, attend a mid-week Bible study and mobbed by people coming up to greet me. Several were kind enough to stay afterward for a couple of hours to answer my questions.
The truth is, people are people. Some are kind and thoughtful, some are jerks, most are a mixture. Some are naturally outgoing, some are shy, and some have a lot going on in their own lives.
I know many of the folks at St. Athanasios in Gulf Shores. They're a really nice bunch  - a pretty Pan-Orthodox parish. I've met Fr. Sasa briefly and he seemed like a very intelligent and friendly person.


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« Reply #113 on: October 06, 2014, 03:47:37 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Rednecks? Liberal??? What rednecks have you been talking to? Because all we've seem to got is super-conservative Evangelicals that shove Catholics, Atheists, Anglicans, Abortion Supporters, Mormons and Dem Gays in the same H-E-Double Hockeysticks pile.
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« Reply #114 on: October 06, 2014, 03:47:44 PM »

Dem Catholics have inadvertently led quite a few RCIA catechumens into Orthodoxy.

Although I was never in RCIA, a priest in the Melkite Eastern Catholic Church told me, "We do not believe that the Orthodox Church is heretical," so I asked him if I could attend the inquiry class at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral. He said, "Go ahead." Within three years, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy.

What I said was a joke. I am pretty cool with Catholics. I regularly attended Catholic Mass for most of this year. I was mocking the Southern evangelical hatred of Catholics.

Yes, I am aware of that. Most folks in the deep south think that Orthodoxy is the RC Church without the Pope.

Most of them aren't aware that it exists.

Yes, it is the best kept secret.

Even if it was well-known, I often wonder just how well Orthodoxy could catch on in the USA.

From what I have seen and read, converts to Orthodoxy in the USA fall into one (or possibly more) of these categories.

1. Mainline Protestants whose churches have gone reprobate or who study theology, scripture, and Tradition/Church history (these also may opt to become Catholic instead).
2. Evangelicals with an IQ of 90 or more (these also may become Catholic or Mainline). NB, I fit into this category.
3. Catholics who make an honest and full comparison between Catholicism and Orthodoxy (I somewhat fall into this category, but I was never a baptized and confirmed Catholic.)

That being said, the reason that Evangelicalism has had such an appeal for so long (though I hear it is waning, I pray that this is true) is that it fits the American culture of instant gratification. You want to join the faith? No problem. Go up to the altar, and we will throw you in the baptistry next Sunday. You don't need to learn anything, think about anything, or even know what you are getting into.
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« Reply #115 on: October 06, 2014, 04:40:15 PM »

4. People from atheist/agnostic/secular families, or who have passed through atheism, and maybe explored Buddhism or other Eastern religions/philosophies.

I'm sure one could define other categories.
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« Reply #116 on: October 06, 2014, 04:44:27 PM »

4. People from atheist/agnostic/secular families, or who have passed through atheism, and maybe explored Buddhism or other Eastern religions/philosophies.

I'm sure one could define other categories.

I'm wasn't ruling out other possibilities, I was just stating the trends that I've seen.
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« Reply #117 on: October 06, 2014, 04:51:16 PM »

ahh how blah..

you went from being someone who had anxiety about going to an ethnic church to just another America-hater.


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« Reply #118 on: October 06, 2014, 04:52:33 PM »

ahh how blah..

you went from being someone who had anxiety about going to an ethnic church to just another America-hater.


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Are you suggesting that the two are related?
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I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Wow. I knew you didn't know what words mean. Thanks for confirming it.
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I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

My kids will never see a TV.

because nothing says pride and culture like a bunch of quitters supporting slavery
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« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2014, 05:20:06 PM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
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« Reply #122 on: October 06, 2014, 06:20:23 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Wow. I knew you didn't know what words mean. Thanks for confirming it.

The random jibes out of someone I've never even talked to just confirms people around here are mental.
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I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Rednecks? Liberal??? What rednecks have you been talking to? Because all we've seem to got is super-conservative Evangelicals that shove Catholics, Atheists, Anglicans, Abortion Supporters, Mormons and Dem Gays in the same H-E-Double Hockeysticks pile.

Just try telling a redneck that extra marital sex, getting drunk, taking vengeance on people or attacking people for no reason is not condoned in Christianity, they would not care. They may claim to be conservative but if you actually consider the basic idea that is most important to them, the rejection of authority, it puts them right in the Individualist/Liberal/Anarchist side of politics (which I'm betting all the people with PhDs around here didn't know - those are actually classified together by political scientists. If you don't like it oh well).
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« Reply #124 on: October 06, 2014, 06:36:37 PM »



I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Rednecks? Liberal??? What rednecks have you been talking to? Because all we've seem to got is super-conservative Evangelicals that shove Catholics, Atheists, Anglicans, Abortion Supporters, Mormons and Dem Gays in the same H-E-Double Hockeysticks pile.

Just try telling a redneck that extra marital sex, getting drunk, taking vengeance on people or attacking people for no reason is not condoned in Christianity, they would not care. They may claim to be conservative but if you actually consider the basic idea that is most important to them, the rejection of authority, it puts them right in the Individualist/Liberal/Anarchist side of politics (which I'm betting all the people with PhDs around here didn't know - those are actually classified together by political scientists. If you don't like it oh well).

Thank you. I could not have said it better myself.
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« Reply #125 on: October 06, 2014, 10:01:11 PM »

Yeah, there's no such thing as a monolithic "American culture".

Regions of the country, though, are a different story. Even within a single state their can be several different cultures.

Yes, indeedy. For instance, there are several different Southern cultures. There's the stereotypical one that Yankees think exists here, and then the real one that all of us Southerners know about but don't tell the outlanders.
Oooo!!! Tell us what it is! I want to know!

Beer, pork barbecue, grits, collards, and okra just for a start.  Grin   Oh yeah, and American Pit Bull terriers.

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Pit bulls???

Sir! Any cultured Southern gentleman knows, hound dogs are the proper dog of the South!

Coonhounds, walkers, redbones ...

(Myself, I'm raising a Rottweiler and I'm quite fond of German Shepherds. But then I never claimed to be a proper gentleman. Wink )

Oh no !!   We are going to have to start another thread in order not to hijack this one.   BTW   I really like Rotties, great dogs, mine passed away at 14 years of age and I went out to the pound and rescued a Pit Bull.  There survival rate stinks once the pound gets them.   

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« Reply #126 on: October 06, 2014, 10:18:04 PM »

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That's about right Viking.  My second time was this Sunday.  OMG!  Nervous as a high school girl going to the prom!  It was great and I am SO glad I went.  Like Father Barnabas Powell says in one of his You Tube videos, "You guys get to do this every week?"
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« Reply #127 on: October 06, 2014, 10:32:38 PM »

Unless we can get back on topic, I will be closing this post.
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I'm from the South, and my ancestors were Confederate soldiers and officers, but I can't have the same pride in it that I used to. People here are too pro-military and the old Southern culture has been destroyed. Media=cultural genocide.

People have gotten pretty confused about it and mixed up "redneck" with Southern. Rednecks can also be found in every state, they're pretty much just the dumber/dirtier side of liberalism.

Rednecks? Liberal??? What rednecks have you been talking to? Because all we've seem to got is super-conservative Evangelicals that shove Catholics, Atheists, Anglicans, Abortion Supporters, Mormons and Dem Gays in the same H-E-Double Hockeysticks pile.

Just try telling a redneck that extra marital sex, getting drunk, taking vengeance on people or attacking people for no reason is not condoned in Christianity, they would not care. They may claim to be conservative but if you actually consider the basic idea that is most important to them, the rejection of authority, it puts them right in the Individualist/Liberal/Anarchist side of politics (which I'm betting all the people with PhDs around here didn't know - those are actually classified together by political scientists. If you don't like it oh well).

Not a word of that made sense. Congratulations! 100% inaccurate!

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« Reply #129 on: October 07, 2014, 01:27:16 AM »

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« Reply #130 on: October 07, 2014, 01:28:56 AM »

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Please tell me the cat's tongue wasn't 'shopped!

I saw it on Tumblr the other day. I'm pretty sure it's real.
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« Reply #131 on: October 07, 2014, 03:02:52 AM »

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To the OP.   I was a nervous wreck at first but I had to do something as I was heading for a spiritual break down.  The need over ruled the anxiety and fear and I forced myself to go.  No one is going to check to see if you are carrying an Orthodox membership card.  Relax, you will be fine.

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That's about right Viking.  My second time was this Sunday.  OMG!  Nervous as a high school girl going to the prom!  It was great and I am SO glad I went.  Like Father Barnabas Powell says in one of his You Tube videos, "You guys get to do this every week?"

It's how I feel as well. I know it's going to be awkward (or I will at least feel that way), but I know that I absolutely have to do this. I am honestly ashamed for putting it of this long, and also ashamed for even starting this thread. I know what I need to do. I've known it for nearly 3 years.

It will always hang heavily on my pride that I submitted to my anxiety rather than to God.

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« Reply #132 on: October 07, 2014, 03:10:36 AM »

I've known it for nearly 3 years.

I knew it more or less for 30 years before converting, and I really knew it for at least 17.

It will always hang heavily on my pride that I submitted to my anxiety rather than to God.

You're not alone there.
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« Reply #133 on: October 07, 2014, 07:24:35 AM »

Kostya, I must apologize for the forum members who failed to provide you with the direct and simple answers  that you asked for and posted off topic responses to you requests; Because of this , your topic has been closed due to the off topic statements continuing after warning was given. Forun nenbers Please re-read the Convert Issues Purpose and avoid such discussions as southern rights, the confederacy, or other non-orthodox topics in the Convert Issues Forum:

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