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O.J.: Made in America
« on: June 20, 2016, 04:06:50 AM »
I watched all five episodes of this series. Fascinating stuff. Deeply disturbing, full of provocative political overtones, and a tragic indictment of human nature in general.

I clearly remember watching all of this as it was unfolding. I was 25 years old when I turned on the TV and saw that white Bronco driving down the highway with a posse of police cars in pursuit. And I admit: I thought to myself, "They want to do to O.J. what they did to Rodney King; but they can't, because they know the cameras are rolling."

I also remember seeing Reggie Mckenzie (who blocked for O.J. Simpson with the Buffalo Bills, and who was one of Simpson's best friends) interviewed on TV as the trial was taking place. I had met Reggie Mckenzie a few years earlier at a mutual friend's birthday party. We talked for two or three hours, and mostly about our mutual Christian faith. He was as genuine, humble, and sincere of a guy as you could ever meet. We didn't even discuss football at all.

Well, anyway, when I saw Reggie Mckenzie defend O.J.'s innocence on national T.V., I was convinced. I thought: "I met this guy. He wouldn't lie. And he's no fool. This guy can't be conned. And he knows O.J. as well as anyone. So if he says O.J. didn't do it, then O.J. didn't do it!"

In fact, I was one of the many idiots cheering when O.J. was declared "not guilty." I didn't trust the cops, and I didn't trust the racist system; but I did trust Reggie Mckenzie, and I did trust my own naïve illusions that a man whose football cards I had collected as a child could not possibly be a murderer. Now I realize how wrong I was, and how wrong Reggie Mckenzie was.

And what's really frightening is this: if a man like Reggie Mckenzie - a man of supreme intelligence, character, and integrity - can be conned, then just consider how easily the rest of us can be conned. After all, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama seduced millions of otherwise intelligent and genuine people to elect them to office. 

Anyway, if you watched this series, what are your thoughts? There's a lot to discuss here. (This may need to be moved to politics.)


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrB3rOcrJxg

ESPN streaming:
http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/


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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2016, 10:58:51 PM »
There was no murder of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.  The whole O.J. saga was fabricated, an elaborate psy-op.  O.J., Nicole, Ron Goldman and his family, the LAPD, the judge, the prosecuting and defense attorneys, Hollywood and the media, are all guilty of conspiring to foist this massive deception on the unsuspecting public.

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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 01:04:46 PM »
There was no murder of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.  The whole O.J. saga was fabricated, an elaborate psy-op.  O.J., Nicole, Ron Goldman and his family, the LAPD, the judge, the prosecuting and defense attorneys, Hollywood and the media, are all guilty of conspiring to foist this massive deception on the unsuspecting public.

What do they have to gain by lying?
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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 01:16:16 PM »
25 years old???

I was in elementary school.  I figured you were older than me but not enough to be living in a nursing home!!

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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 01:36:20 PM »
I watched all five episodes of this series. Fascinating stuff. Deeply disturbing, full of provocative political overtones, and a tragic indictment of human nature in general.

I clearly remember watching all of this as it was unfolding. I was 25 years old when I turned on the TV and saw that white Bronco driving down the highway with a posse of police cars in pursuit. And I admit: I thought to myself, "They want to do to O.J. what they did to Rodney King; but they can't, because they know the cameras are rolling."

I also remember seeing Reggie Mckenzie (who blocked for O.J. Simpson with the Buffalo Bills, and who was one of Simpson's best friends) interviewed on TV as the trial was taking place. I had met Reggie Mckenzie a few years earlier at a mutual friend's birthday party. We talked for two or three hours, and mostly about our mutual Christian faith. He was as genuine, humble, and sincere of a guy as you could ever meet. We didn't even discuss football at all.

Well, anyway, when I saw Reggie Mckenzie defend O.J.'s innocence on national T.V., I was convinced. I thought: "I met this guy. He wouldn't lie. And he's no fool. This guy can't be conned. And he knows O.J. as well as anyone. So if he says O.J. didn't do it, then O.J. didn't do it!"

In fact, I was one of the many idiots cheering when O.J. was declared "not guilty." I didn't trust the cops, and I didn't trust the racist system; but I did trust Reggie Mckenzie, and I did trust my own naïve illusions that a man whose football cards I had collected as a child could not possibly be a murderer. Now I realize how wrong I was, and how wrong Reggie Mckenzie was.

And what's really frightening is this: if a man like Reggie Mckenzie - a man of supreme intelligence, character, and integrity - can be conned, then just consider how easily the rest of us can be conned. After all, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama seduced millions of otherwise intelligent and genuine people to elect them to office. 

Anyway, if you watched this series, what are your thoughts? There's a lot to discuss here. (This may need to be moved to politics.)


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrB3rOcrJxg

ESPN streaming:
http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/


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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2016, 02:07:31 PM »
25 years old???

I was in elementary school.  I figured you were older than me but not enough to be living in a nursing home!!

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I was 24 as well you whippersnapper!
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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 03:57:19 PM »
25 years old???

I was in elementary school.  I figured you were older than me but not enough to be living in a nursing home!!

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I was 24 as well you whippersnapper!

Put the flintlock down.  I'm getting off your precious lawn.  Geez Denise.
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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »
25 years old???

I was in elementary school.  I figured you were older than me but not enough to be living in a nursing home!!

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Yep. I'm getting up there. I'll be 48 next month.

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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 04:54:00 PM »
I remember that trail, I disliked that whole time period, your black friends at school are convinced he didn't, do it, and how it a conspiracy against the black man, while your white friends are feeling they just let a murderer off Scott free, it was such a bad time for racial relations, even for little kids. I bought into OJ being innocent foolishly buying into silly conspiracy theories. Looking back he seems guilty, and these was a lot of red flags in the trail, yet in the end, Only GOD knows. If he did do it, GOD must have a way of making sure there justice, since OJ last I heard was doing hard time out in Vegas.
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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 05:35:40 PM »
25 years old???

I was in elementary school.  I figured you were older than me but not enough to be living in a nursing home!!

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I was 24 as well you whippersnapper!

Put the flintlock down.  I'm getting off your precious lawn.  Geez Denise.

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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2016, 04:40:55 PM »
I watched all five episodes of this series. Fascinating stuff. Deeply disturbing, full of provocative political overtones, and a tragic indictment of human nature in general.

I clearly remember watching all of this as it was unfolding. I was 25 years old when I turned on the TV and saw that white Bronco driving down the highway with a posse of police cars in pursuit. And I admit: I thought to myself, "They want to do to O.J. what they did to Rodney King; but they can't, because they know the cameras are rolling."

I also remember seeing Reggie Mckenzie (who blocked for O.J. Simpson with the Buffalo Bills, and who was one of Simpson's best friends) interviewed on TV as the trial was taking place. I had met Reggie Mckenzie a few years earlier at a mutual friend's birthday party. We talked for two or three hours, and mostly about our mutual Christian faith. He was as genuine, humble, and sincere of a guy as you could ever meet. We didn't even discuss football at all.

Well, anyway, when I saw Reggie Mckenzie defend O.J.'s innocence on national T.V., I was convinced. I thought: "I met this guy. He wouldn't lie. And he's no fool. This guy can't be conned. And he knows O.J. as well as anyone. So if he says O.J. didn't do it, then O.J. didn't do it!"

In fact, I was one of the many idiots cheering when O.J. was declared "not guilty." I didn't trust the cops, and I didn't trust the racist system; but I did trust Reggie Mckenzie, and I did trust my own naïve illusions that a man whose football cards I had collected as a child could not possibly be a murderer. Now I realize how wrong I was, and how wrong Reggie Mckenzie was.

And what's really frightening is this: if a man like Reggie Mckenzie - a man of supreme intelligence, character, and integrity - can be conned, then just consider how easily the rest of us can be conned. After all, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama seduced millions of otherwise intelligent and genuine people to elect them to office. 

Anyway, if you watched this series, what are your thoughts? There's a lot to discuss here. (This may need to be moved to politics.)


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrB3rOcrJxg

ESPN streaming:
http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/


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Dear Gebre,

This slipped through the cracks in the mod team.  The whole post was fine except the part where you mentioned the presidents seducing millions.  In addition, you even admitted "this may need to be moved to politics."  If you knew there was the risk, why risk it?

You have been warned many times in the past for posting politics in the public forum with small penalties.  I will impose a 15% penalty on you.  If you wish to appeal the warning, do so only through PM.

I warn anyone else not to discuss politics in this thread.  I am not moving this thread.

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Re: O.J.: Made in America
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Re: O.J.: Made in America
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2016, 04:55:17 PM »
I watched all five episodes of this series. Fascinating stuff. Deeply disturbing, full of provocative political overtones, and a tragic indictment of human nature in general.

I clearly remember watching all of this as it was unfolding. I was 25 years old when I turned on the TV and saw that white Bronco driving down the highway with a posse of police cars in pursuit. And I admit: I thought to myself, "They want to do to O.J. what they did to Rodney King; but they can't, because they know the cameras are rolling."

I also remember seeing Reggie Mckenzie (who blocked for O.J. Simpson with the Buffalo Bills, and who was one of Simpson's best friends) interviewed on TV as the trial was taking place. I had met Reggie Mckenzie a few years earlier at a mutual friend's birthday party. We talked for two or three hours, and mostly about our mutual Christian faith. He was as genuine, humble, and sincere of a guy as you could ever meet. We didn't even discuss football at all.

Well, anyway, when I saw Reggie Mckenzie defend O.J.'s innocence on national T.V., I was convinced. I thought: "I met this guy. He wouldn't lie. And he's no fool. This guy can't be conned. And he knows O.J. as well as anyone. So if he says O.J. didn't do it, then O.J. didn't do it!"

In fact, I was one of the many idiots cheering when O.J. was declared "not guilty." I didn't trust the cops, and I didn't trust the racist system; but I did trust Reggie Mckenzie, and I did trust my own naïve illusions that a man whose football cards I had collected as a child could not possibly be a murderer. Now I realize how wrong I was, and how wrong Reggie Mckenzie was.

And what's really frightening is this: if a man like Reggie Mckenzie - a man of supreme intelligence, character, and integrity - can be conned, then just consider how easily the rest of us can be conned. ... (editted) ...

Anyway, if you watched this series, what are your thoughts? There's a lot to discuss here. (This may need to be moved to politics.)


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrB3rOcrJxg

ESPN streaming:
http://espn.go.com/30for30/ojsimpsonmadeinamerica/


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I haven't watched this, but I have watched "The People vs OJ Simpson", which I enjoyed.  I can understand why Simpson got away with it.

I didn't get one trivial part though.  One of Simpson's best friends was Al "AC" Cowlings, and he was like a twin to him.  The running joke was "AC is a poor man's OJ".  I didn't get that one.
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