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« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2009, 07:10:18 PM » |
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You're just not easy to impress, Papist. I guess the Pope's subsequent emissary's of the 4th Crusade (1204), who sacked Constantinople, and had a women of ill repute dance upon the Throne of the Ecumenical Patriarch, wouldn't impress you either, nor is the Jesuit "mission" within Greece, in the 18th century, during Ottoman occupation, impressive either; and the proliferation of Roman Catholic dioceses in Russia, during the "Dialogue of Love," likewise, unimpressive.
[Whistles.] That's quite a chip you have on your shoulder. BTW, the Fourth Crusade was not the Pope's. Read Innocent III's angry response to the sacking---pretty strong stuff. Have a nice day. You mean as he left the doors of the Vatican Treasury and main Cathedrals open to take in the stolen looy that went on for the next 4060 years? Orthodoc
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« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2009, 07:40:35 PM » |
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Yes I do and I am sincerely sorry. I misread the post. Thought I was addressing a reply by Papist. Again, I'm sorry.
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Orthodoc, Thanks. I'm sorry for getting snippy about it. Carry on!
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« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2009, 08:46:16 PM » |
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Was not Bulgaria the country that betrayed her Orthodox allies, Russia, and Serbia, during World War I by joining the Central Powers and fighting against Orthodoxy? I also recall reading that the King of Bulgaria told the Pope that he was going to convert his country to Catholicism after the war (thank God the Bulgar's lost or this might have occurred). These events, if some of you want to look them up, occurred in 1915.
Bulgaria must not betray the faith of her fathers for the sake of western praise.
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« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2009, 08:54:31 PM » |
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Was not Bulgaria the country that betrayed her Orthodox allies, Russia, and Serbia, during World War I by joining the Central Powers and fighting against Orthodoxy? I also recall reading that the King of Bulgaria told the Pope that he was going to convert his country to Catholicism after the war (thank God the Bulgar's lost or this might have occurred). These events, if some of you want to look them up, occurred in 1915.
Bulgaria must not betray the faith of her fathers for the sake of western praise.
How is that relevant to this thread??
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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2009, 08:55:12 PM » |
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What could happen once might happen again?
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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2009, 08:46:16 AM » |
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What could happen once might happen again?
Ridiculous. What never occurred cannot, by definition, happen again.
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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2009, 10:36:21 AM » |
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I don't know about 20th century happenings, but Bulgaria did flip flop between Constantinople and Rome a few times in the 9th century.
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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2009, 12:59:30 PM » |
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I don't know about 20th century happenings, but Bulgaria did flip flop between Constantinople and Rome a few times in the 9th century.
From my Bulgarian Orthodox fosterson - ============= This week the Holy Synod of the BOC removed from office Simeon, Metropolitan of Central and Western Europe along with his Vicar Bishop Tichon. Tichon was fullfilling the duties of Simeon (who has been in the hospital for a long time). Tichon was the one who made some scandalous remarks to the media with respect to our relations with the roman catholics i.e. they were not heretics, they are the other half and other such nonsense. I am so happy that the Synod swiftly removed both of them! ============= Orthodoc
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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2009, 02:34:08 PM » |
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Who will take their place? What are that removed Hierarchs going to do know?
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2009, 04:47:22 PM » |
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Who will take their place? What are that removed Hierarchs going to do know? Probably someone who doesn't publicly fraternize with heretics. We all want unity in faith and communion, but it has to be real.
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2009, 07:31:58 PM » |
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Mispost. I just realized the former bishop has been removed.
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