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« on: October 01, 2009, 10:11:06 PM »

what event is this icon depicting?

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 10:57:13 PM »

I don't know but I think the Icon is beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 12:06:21 AM »

I can't be sure, but it looks like Christ blessing and Mary showing the Lord to the natives of Alaska.  I could be wrong, but it's fiesable.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 12:21:07 AM »

I can't be sure, but it looks like Christ blessing and Mary showing the Lord to the natives of Alaska.  I could be wrong, but it's fiesable.

They look more like Russian soldiers.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 01:12:16 AM »

They look like soldiers to me.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 01:40:36 AM »

The inscription in the lower border is very difficult to read on the screen I'm looking at right now, but at the moment it appears that there is a date of either 1904 or 1914, and mention of the appearance of the Mother of God to Russian soldiers.

Once I can look at this image on a better screen, I might be able to say more.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 01:10:58 PM »

Theotokos appearing to Russian soldiers during WWI?
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 07:02:06 PM »

So what event is this? I also think it's beautiful, btw.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 07:05:58 PM »

I think this is the same thing:

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 11:35:56 PM »

So... anyone know?
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 11:53:30 PM »

Anyone know the story behind the icons/paintings?
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 11:59:08 PM »

Funny, because there are no firearms except for two in the background of that photo (oh, and they aren't really recognizable as firearms)...
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2009, 12:58:36 AM »

The tangent on gunpowder has been split off and moved to this thread in Non-Religious Topics:  Gunpowder a Petroleum Product?
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2009, 12:10:57 PM »

Dear in-Christ list!  I'll have the formal name of the icon for you shortly, as soon as I get a telephone call back.  To cut through the nonsense, both icons are from the same podlinnik (or prototype).  They do indeed depict Russian soldiers wearing World War I uniforms, and there are firearms present.  It's a shame the inscrption line on either is not readable (at least on my monitor), because I would be happy to translate the inscription for you.  I'm assuming that the inscription will say something like Manifestation of the Mother of God to . . . . on . . . . at . . . because that's the standard format.

I'm new to this list, but I am a scholar of icons, and happy to offer whatever meager insight I can provide.

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 12:27:00 PM »

I do not know what event may be commemorated in the icon, but this is some anecdotal information that might help others who are viewing it.  World War I started in 1914, if that is the year that is indicated; there is Western influence evident on the facial features of all depicted (Byzantine icons would depict faces as "other worldly"); and the coloring in the second icon (not red over blue) of the Theotokos' garments is not consistent with traditional iconography, though Orthodox icons are not always completely true to traditional practice (so maybe it's Byzantine Rite, Roman Catholic).  My guess is some kind of a WW I battle, Central Europe, Carpatho-Rus region.
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2009, 12:36:46 PM »

Welcome to the forum, Vladimir!
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2009, 12:43:21 PM »

http://www.archangelsbooks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=NTW-0091I

I found this link to what appears to be perhaps yet another version of the same icon?
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2009, 12:51:20 PM »

Very beautifull icon , samkim, thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 05:42:26 PM »

So what is it?
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2009, 08:28:45 PM »

Does anyone know yet? I swear, there was another thread about this some where...
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