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« on: September 26, 2009, 04:28:22 AM »

Clevland Catholic diocese puts closed churches up for sale.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=122004&catid=3
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 12:57:54 PM »

The Cleveland Diocese has been named in at least 20 child sex-abuse lawsuits. They are seeking more than $40 million in damages. Financial donations and mass attendance decreased when these lawsuits became public.  This diocese has to pay the expenses for the sins of a few. 


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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 03:17:44 PM »

The Cleveland Diocese has been named in at least 20 child sex-abuse lawsuits. They are seeking more than $40 million in damages. Financial donations and mass attendance decreased when these lawsuits became public.  This diocese has to pay the expenses for the sins of a few. 

They've had a rough go of it lately, which is a shame.  But there's still a very faithful core in Cleveland.

The AOCA in North America has a bishop that is a registered sex offender. 

I know the point you're trying to make, that a similar situation, because of his presence in the diocese might be theoretically possible, but (a) it's not an analogous situation, and (b) it looks like you're really just attempting to vent (and out of context).
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 04:35:03 PM »

You are correct that this is not an anal ogous situation.  Groping females and exposing oneself in public, while intoxicated,  are not as horrific as raping/groping little boys but these are still illegal behaviors. 

Almost ninety percent of alcoholics relapse after their first treatment/rehab.  Living alone without the support of a spouse/significant other is a variable that is highly correlated with relapsing. Bishops live alone without the support of a spouse /significant other.

{Yes, I did study Freud but that was your word choice.  I just pointed it out.  Wink}
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 12:28:36 AM »

All Churches and religions have problems like this.  My post was, in no way, an attempt to point a figure at the RCC as being the "only Church" which has issues like this.

It's a sham that the poor parishioners of these parishes have had to see their heritage be sold off for whatever reason.  A church is more then just a brick and mortar "worship space" but a lace that has a deep connection to the people who attend it every week.  This is made even worse by the fact that these churches are ethnic parishes and they served not just the wider Catholic community, but specific groups of people, many of them going back over a hundred years.

How can they,once closed, ever be replaced?

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