|
Robert
|
 |
« on: November 30, 2003, 11:22:32 PM » |
|
VOTE!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
 Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2003, 11:25:39 PM » |
|
can I vote more than once??  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
prodromos
Elder
Offline
Faith: Orthodox
Posts: 1,463
Sydney, Australia
|
|
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2003, 03:48:38 AM » |
|
can I vote more than once?? You don't by any chance happen to live in Florida, do you? John. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2003, 04:52:31 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
Keble
All-Knowing Grand Wizard of Debunking
Archon
Offline
Posts: 3,042
|
|
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2003, 08:23:34 AM » |
|
I think it should list all the jurisdictions you've been in-- with durations in each . . . . (negative durations for those you are still a catechumen in  ) |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 01, 2003, 08:25:50 AM by Keble »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
prodromos
Elder
Offline
Faith: Orthodox
Posts: 1,463
Sydney, Australia
|
|
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2003, 09:25:08 AM » |
|
We'll just keep a history of jurisdiction changes John |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2003, 09:41:14 AM » |
|
length of time? yikes that could be very revealing for some of us. Some of us are rather old so telling how long one has been a part of a given jursidiction would also give away their age! Vicki comes to mind . . . |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
Karamazov
|
|
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2003, 09:43:42 AM » |
|
As long as it is optional, I vote yes. Some people prefer to maintain some level of anonymity.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Linus7
|
|
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2003, 10:13:31 AM » |
|
I voted "yes," but this is not an option I care much about one way or the other.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
- Pope St. Hormisdas
|
|
|
|
David
|
|
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2003, 10:34:11 AM » |
|
Sounds good, but I think Orthodox Catechuman (without a jurisdictional modifier) should also be an option. And if a person is deceiving the board, the admins/mods should have the prerogative to change the listing to the correct one. This of course wouldn't apply to those who choose to remain anonymous in the affiliation, only those who commit falsehood ie - Keble listing himself as Pentecostal. :p
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"When looking at faults, use a mirror, not a telescope."
-Yazid Ibrahim
|
|
|
|
Linus7
|
|
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2003, 10:36:06 AM » |
|
Sounds good, but I think Orthodox Catechuman (without a jurisdictional modifier) should also be an option. And if a person is deceiving the board, the admins/mods should have the prerogative to change the listing to the correct one. This of course wouldn't apply to those who choose to remain anonymous in the affiliation, only those who commit falsehood ie - Keble listing himself as Pentecostal. :p
What! You mean Keble isn't a Pentecostal?  Then who's the guy on the right? |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 01, 2003, 10:50:24 AM by Linus7 »
|
Logged
|
The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true faith and in no way to deviate from the established doctrine of the Fathers.
- Pope St. Hormisdas
|
|
|
|
David
|
|
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2003, 11:14:08 AM » |
|
Keble, shame on you!  [1] Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God say, You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?" [2] And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; [3] but God said, You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" [4] But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die. [5] For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." [6] So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, and he ate. [7] Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 01, 2003, 11:16:52 AM by David »
|
Logged
|
"When looking at faults, use a mirror, not a telescope."
-Yazid Ibrahim
|
|
|
|
Jakub
|
|
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2003, 12:32:09 PM » |
|
If one chooses to disclose his/her/its affiliation seems to be a good option, as long as nobody uses it for harassment or conversion.
Of course there are renegades here and they should be sought out and muted by the Imperial SOP'S.
james
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
An old timer is a man who's had a lot of interesting experiences -- some of them true.
|
|
|
|
Robert
|
|
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2003, 03:11:53 PM » |
|
Well, from advice given by an OC.net member, I think we will make it very unspecific. For instance, instead of specifying which jurisdiction one is, we'd just have Eastern Orthodox. This will cut down on the jurisdiction squabbles which seem to be so famous among Internet Orthodox  So basically the list would include: Eastern Orthodox Oriental Orthodox Roman Catholic Eastern Catholic Protestant Other N/A I think this would be a much cleaner way of implementing the system, and achieving the general goal by basically allowing everyone to get the gist, without getting too specific, into everyone's "canonical" situation. In response to David... I removed the Chat link at the top that indicated how many members were in the room mainly because the chat server is hosted on another site, and the script would query that server, adding a few seconds to every page load. It was annoying at times, and by eliminating it, I cut down on page load times significantly. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2003, 03:44:36 PM » |
|
mr Turkey: good start |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2003, 03:45:03 PM » |
|
Now the question is what will you use as symbols for each?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2003, 03:47:54 PM » |
|
Q for Mr Turkey
If you do the 'Labels' that way - what are the Catechumens /Catechumen wannabees supposed to show themselves as ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2003, 03:52:47 PM » |
|
slave: they could choose to identify with what they are converting to, or what they still are or just go with other It's not about putting everyone into boxes, but rather allowing us to stand up and be counted |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
David
|
|
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2003, 03:55:48 PM » |
|
Bobby,
You're right, that does sound like a better(and simpler) system.
About the chat server, would it be possible to add a link that says "click here to see who is in the chat room" instead?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"When looking at faults, use a mirror, not a telescope."
-Yazid Ibrahim
|
|
|
Keble
All-Knowing Grand Wizard of Debunking
Archon
Offline
Posts: 3,042
|
|
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2003, 05:24:37 PM » |
|
Is it time for my "Protestantism isn't all one thing" rant? Yes, it is!  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
KO63AP
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 50
Óрðù, úþñ÷ðрю! ÛÃÂÂ
|
 |
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2003, 05:29:27 PM » |
|
Is it time for my "Protestantism isn't all one thing" rant? Yes, it is! Would differentiating between "High" and "Low" suffice? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
âі, щþ ÑÂÂÑ–ÑŽÑ‚ÑŒ у ÑÂÂûьþ÷ðх, ÿþöýуть у рðôþÑÂÂÑ
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2003, 06:26:21 PM » |
|
I knew this Idea was hairbrained. It's going to be trouble - let's just scrub it.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2003, 06:35:42 PM » |
|
YOu can cover all schools of protestant thought in three main catagories: Anglican Lutheran Calvinist. But if nothing else, you could say Liturgical or Sacramental protestant and damn dumb fundies |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
David
|
|
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2003, 06:55:26 PM » |
|
Protestant subcategories
1. Anglican
2. Lutheran
3. Calvinist
4. Arminian
5. Protestant Other
So, for instance, Lutheraninquirer would be
Protestant>Lutheran
How dat?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"When looking at faults, use a mirror, not a telescope."
-Yazid Ibrahim
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2003, 06:58:21 PM » |
|
david: very tactful and diplomatic. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2003, 06:59:13 PM » |
|
If anyone should balk at this system it should be me since I don't exactly fit into any box. unless you count the box vicki shoves me in all the time - TROUBLE MAKER.   |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 01, 2003, 07:00:22 PM by Br. Max, OFC »
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
Oblio
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 454
The Pointless One !
|
|
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2003, 07:02:59 PM » |
|
Keble...indeedy, we sympatize...but all 10,000 branches of start-yer-own Protestants will wantto be represented, not merely the tried, true, solid we know-what you are sorts like Lutherans and Anglicans.
Yepper. That very thing happened over at CF. Folks clamoring saying things like 'I'm jus' a Christian' to absurdities like Baptists claiming that were not Protestant but part of the HPC (Hidden Parallel Church (tm) ) and the Messainics who will have nothing to do with the term Christian or the Cross for that matter. :rolleyes: What a mess it was for the owner/coder ! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2003, 07:17:44 PM » |
|
I wanna chi-rho for my symbol. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
Ebor
|
|
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2003, 07:20:03 PM » |
|
Hidden Parallel Church (tm)?!?!
Ebor
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I wish they would remember that the charge to Peter was "Feed my sheep", not "Try experiments on my rats", or even "Teach my performing dogs new tricks". - C. S. Lewis
The Katana of Reasoned Discussion
For some a world view is more like a neighborhood watch.
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2003, 07:21:55 PM » |
|
ebor: oh never heard of that? You didn't know there always were baptists around that the catholics persicuted and killed from the first century of the church?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
MsGuided
Pharmakolytria
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 478
St. Anastasia
|
|
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2003, 07:55:15 PM » |
|
I wanna chi-rho for my symbol. How interesting that I never made the connection....the Pharmacists' Honour Society is the Rho Chi Society Just goes to show how backwards we really are... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Forgive me that great love leads me to talking nonsense." Barsanuphius
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2003, 08:03:20 PM » |
|
one could say that things are a little misguided |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
Mor Ephrem
|
|
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2003, 09:40:50 PM » |
|
Little MsGuided...you took the words right out of my mouth, Br. Max. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'm a huge fan of Mor." - Carmen Electra Laying claim to the Phanar since 9 December 2003 |
|
|
MsGuided
Pharmakolytria
Sr. Member
Offline
Posts: 478
St. Anastasia
|
|
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2003, 09:46:40 PM » |
|
You had to make a short joke, huh |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Forgive me that great love leads me to talking nonsense." Barsanuphius
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2003, 10:42:25 PM » |
|
lol |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2003, 04:21:34 AM » |
|
What's "kool-aid "  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
Oblio
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: OCA
Posts: 454
The Pointless One !
|
|
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2003, 08:06:11 AM » |
|
It's a classic powdered drink concentrate to which sugar and water is added making a concoction that has put boats in slips and airplanes in hangers for many a dentist. A generation of baby Boomers in the States grew up on it before they graduated to beer |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2003, 09:57:49 AM » |
|
I see - thanks for that. Interesting that someone else shares my views about dentist's fees. I , admittedly a while back ,made some crack to my dentist about his new boat - along the lines of well that's about three quarters of your boat now paid for and got the response of " you are kidding ! I can now afford to have a mast - the rest of the boat has still to be bought !" It should of course be obvious that what I actually said was not quite that as my mouth was full of his gadgets at the time  |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 02, 2003, 09:58:35 AM by the slave »
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
prodromos
Elder
Offline
Faith: Orthodox
Posts: 1,463
Sydney, Australia
|
|
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2003, 10:06:52 AM » |
|
In response to David...
I removed the Chat link at the top that indicated how many members were in the room mainly because the chat server is hosted on another site, and the script would query that server, adding a few seconds to every page load. It was annoying at times, and by eliminating it, I cut down on page load times significantly.
Can't you regularly query the other server and cache the result on the web server for instant and fairly up to date results? (Says John who has never coded in html, let alone any of the myriad scripting languages available today ) |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Robert
|
|
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2003, 10:29:11 AM » |
|
It could be cached, but I'm currently working on a Java Servlet written in J# for chat that is hosted locally so we don't have to rely on everywherechat.com
Bobby
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Robert
|
|
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2003, 10:30:08 AM » |
|
Yes I know.. .NET
I still hate M$
Bobby
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
KO63AP
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 50
Óрðù, úþñ÷ðрю! ÛÃÂÂ
|
|
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2003, 03:13:44 PM » |
|
What's "kool-aid " Don't forget the Jonestown variety I had to do a double-take when I saw that one of our committee members is a "Rev. Jim Jones". I hope he's never asked to arrange the catering! Andrij |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
âі, щþ ÑÂÂÑ–ÑŽÑ‚ÑŒ у ÑÂÂûьþ÷ðх, ÿþöýуть у рðôþÑÂÂÑ
|
|
|
the slave
intolerant of intolerance
Sr. Member
Offline
Faith: Greek Catholic
Jurisdiction: UGCC
Posts: 805
|
|
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2003, 03:19:10 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."
- St. John Maximovitch
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2003, 05:41:27 PM » |
|
What's "kool-aid " Don't forget the Jonestown variety I had to do a double-take when I saw that one of our committee members is a "Rev. Jim Jones". I hope he's never asked to arrange the catering! Andrij LOL that's almost as funny as Sr Julia Child of God as the cook in the musical Nunsense who kills all the sisters. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
Br. Max, OFC
Target of choice
Elder
Offline
Posts: 1,418
ECCE HOMO
|
|
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2003, 05:42:45 PM » |
|
slave: jim jones was a nutter who lead a bunch of fundies to South america and poisoned them with kool-aid
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Where I live in Manhattan and where I work at ABC, people say 'conservative' the way people say 'child molester.' Leftist thinking is just the culture that I live in and the culture the reporters who populate the mainstream media
|
|
|
|
