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« on: September 02, 2009, 09:27:56 AM » |
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Have you ever heard of it? I was told not only are they allowed to wear a mitre, bu to bless with a dikirion and a trikirion also. In the history of CoP there was only one such a Priest.
Is that true?
Adressed for Slavs nad Slav-like. I suppose Greeks and others have different Priest's awards.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 09:34:09 AM » |
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The rank of mitred protopresbyter/protopriest is not given frequently, nor lightly. My understanding is that it is given to married priests who have given long and distinguished service.
I know of two such mitred priests in my neck of the woods: one, who reposed more than 20 years ago, and one who is very much alive, and most likely to be around for quite a few years yet.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 09:39:44 AM » |
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In Poland rank of an Archypresbyter is much more higher than the rank of Mitrate, Protopresbyter or permission two wear second cross. It's hardly mythical.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 10:45:15 AM » |
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The only mitred presbyter I know was Fr. Alexander Schmemann of blessed memory in the OCA. So, it definitely is not a common phenomenon. But, Fr. Schmemann was never called Archipresbyter, but Protopresbyter. Are the two terms synonymous?
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 11:13:11 AM » |
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In Poland rank of an Archypresbyter is much more higher than the rank of Mitrate, Protopresbyter or permission two wear second cross. It's hardly mythical.
Interesting. Many of these ranks developed rather late in the Russian Church, so they do not exist in the ancient Patriarchates. Perhaps someone more familiar with 18th century Russia could speak up, but I myself have never read of Mitred priests until after Peter the Great's major reforms. Along Polish lines: The most important bishops involved in Peter's reforms were educated by Jesuits in Poland. That became the way to go for quite some time. |
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 11:27:25 AM » |
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But, Fr. Schmemann was never called Archipresbyter, but Protopresbyter. Are the two terms synonymous?
Never heard of Archipresbyters. As far as I understand it, in the Russian-inspired traditions, a Protopresbyter is actually higher than a Mitred Archpriest. So, while a Mitred Archpriest is rare, a Protopresbyter (sometimes called Protopriest) is even more rare. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 06:25:31 PM » |
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Good health to everyone!
It is possible that Mitred priests post to this forum.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 03:04:49 AM » |
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But, Fr. Schmemann was never called Archipresbyter, but Protopresbyter. Are the two terms synonymous?
Never heard of Archipresbyters. As far as I understand it, in the Russian-inspired traditions, a Protopresbyter is actually higher than a Mitred Archpriest. So, while a Mitred Archpriest is rare, a Protopresbyter (sometimes called Protopriest) is even more rare. And an Archipresbyter is even higher than them. I know dosens of Mitrates and several Protopriests but I've heard only about one Archipriest. |
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