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I am Coptic, therefore I love....Coptic Architecture: The Pyramids.  The "Hanging Church" at al-Muqattan. Cross Tattoos: On my wrists...  Or, if i'm bold and dedicated enough, on my forehead as well... Coptic Monks: Those that glow with child-like simplicity and joy...  And those whose humility forces my soul to its knees... Coptic Art: Ancient art...  Ancient iconography...  And modern iconography... Coptic worship: Awe-filled...  Peace-filled...  Incense-filled...  Just...filled... Coptic Culture: The language and literature.  The simplicity and hospitality. The Coptic Pope: A meditative Pope...  A monastic Pope...  A Pope glowing with cheerfulness...  A Pope of the people...  A Pope of the children... [ Follow link for short video recording of His Holiness telling a cute little girl a joke] A poetic Pope... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uMMTz7nTl8&A pastoral Pope... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TyWxX15SWY&
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 02:35:39 AM » |
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BEAUTIFUL!
One thing I like about Coptic Christians is that the men cover their heads. I like to keep my head covered. I'm always wearing a hat or a bandana. Not going bald or anything, just feel more comfortable with something on my head. But in our Ethiopian Orthodox Church I have noticed that only the women cover their heads. I don't know if it's unacceptable or not for men to cover their heads in our Church. Do you know? I think I'll ask Hiywot or Amde Birhan.
Wonderful pictures my brother! Thank you for sharing. BTW, I have a Cross tattoo on the back of my right hand!
Selam
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 03:12:53 AM » |
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Wow! Very impressive & Beautiful pictures. Is it common for Coptic Christians in the U.S to have tatoos?
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 07:12:01 PM » |
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Absolutely beautiful, EkhristosAnesti.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 07:49:01 PM » |
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Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for bringing joy to my heart this day.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 08:17:22 PM » |
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Wow! Very impressive & Beautiful pictures. Is it common for Coptic Christians in the U.S to have tatoos?
Not so much, but some do. In the 80s and 90s there was a revival of sorts of it in Egypt. The Copts had their hands branded with a cross when they paid their jizya poll tax when the Muslims came and set up their governance of Egypt, they extracted the jizya, and used to brand your hand to show you paid (it also marked you for lynching). When the muslims stopped doing it, the Copts started, of their own volition, tattoo themselves on the hand with a cross, usually at a pilgrimage (I got mine at Zaytoun, after going to Jerusalem). I remember once buying a kufiyah. While I was looking at it, the shop owner saw my tattoo and asked me if I was Christian. When I replied yes, it told me "half price." A Copt showing me his Cross pointed out "the muslims here, some are from Saudi Arabia. They are a foreigner here. Some their grandfather was Copt but converted. They belong here, but they are weak. My grandfather and his grandfather [pointing to the Cross on his own hand] were strong. This is the proof that they were strong. Ever since the time of the Apostles, every generation until today, my ancestors were willing to die for this. I am willing to die for this." Not an empty fear in Egypt nowadays. + Ἐν τούτῳ νίκα In hoc signo vinces IN THIS SIGN CONQUER |
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 08:57:59 PM » |
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I don't know if it's unacceptable or not for men to cover their heads in our Church.
As far as I know, in all Orthodox Churches the only people who have the privilege of covering their heads during worship are clergy and women. Men who are not ordained must stand bare-headed. Sorry.  I love the post in this thread by Deacon Amde Tsion: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,17124.msg248030.html#msg248030(post 33) |
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 09:24:09 PM » |
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Thank you for clarifying that. Yes, that was an excellent post by Amde Tsion! I guess the pictures of the Copts with head coverings must have been deacons. Isn't it ironic that some of us men want to wear head coverings, and some women rebel against it. But how silly would I be to defy my Church and brazenly walk in with my head covered? I have no desire to be so stupid! Selam |
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 09:32:41 PM » |
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(post 33)
I guess the pictures of the Copts with head coverings must have been deacons. [/quote] They look to me to be father monks prostrating during the Liturgy and the one praying is a Bishop. This Liturgy was most likely in a monastery. Monks of course cover their heads at all times and wear white coverings during the liturgy. Some of course would be at the rank of Deacon and or Priest as well. Pray for me. James+ Servant |
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 02:06:34 AM » |
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Sorry. Posting error. See following below.
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"Salvation is free, but not easy. It is completely dependent upon the grace of God, and yet we must work it out with fear and trembling. It is given to all, but only a few find it. We are saved only by His Cross, and yet not without taking up our own." +GMK+
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 02:10:53 AM » |
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They look to me to be father monks prostrating during the Liturgy and the one praying is a Bishop. This Liturgy was most likely in a monastery. Monks of course cover their heads at all times and wear white coverings during the liturgy. Some of course would be at the rank of Deacon and or Priest as well.
Pray for me.
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Thank you for the clarification. I hope my comments were not offensive. Selam |
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 03:35:24 PM » |
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EA, thank you for these pictures and captions. Indeed, most beautiful, spiritual, exciting.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 05:10:33 PM » |
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One thing I like about Coptic Christians is that the men cover their heads. I like to keep my head covered.
None of the lay males in the incense picture have their heads covered... |
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 10:13:43 AM » |
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Coptic Iconography is my favourite and I just realized that I also like the Coptic Pope. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 11:13:35 PM » |
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I am Coptic, therefore I love... All the awesome Saints produced by the Coptic Orthodox Church St Pantaenus, founder of the School of Alexandria [image not available] St Clement of Alexandria, Dean of the School of Alexandria  St Pachomius, founder of communal monastic life  St Paul, the first hermit  St Anthony the Great, the First Monk  St Alexander, Pope of Alexandria, Destroyer of Arianism  St Athanasius, Pope of Alexandria, Destroyer of Arianism, Author of the Nicene Creed  St Timothy I, Pope of Alexandria, Destroyer of Macedonianism [Image not available] St Cyril, Pope of Alexandria, Destroyer of Nestorianism  Even after the Chalcedonian split, we still produced awesome Saints St Dioscorus  St Timothy Aelurus [Image not available] St Simon the Shoemaker  St Pope Kyrillos (Cyril) VI  The list just goes on and on and on... Man, I love my Church! |
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 12:32:17 AM » |
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Ekhristos, your post shows so many of the reasons that, if the Coptic and Orthodox Churches reunited, I would almost certainly begin attending a Coptic Church (assuming I lived near one).
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 12:38:32 AM » |
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Ekhristos, your post shows so many of the reasons that, if the Coptic and Orthodox Churches reunited, I would almost certainly begin attending a Coptic Church (assuming I lived near one).
The Coptic Church already *is* a part of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Orthodox Church. If the Byzantine Church wishes to reunite herself to the Orthodox Church (I.e. the non-Chalcedonian one) then great, but the Coptic Church like all her sister OO Churches, is already Orthodox whether or not she is in communion the Byzantine-Chalcedonian Churches. I know that I might get warned for typing this, but on a thread where we are talking about the Coptic Church I don't appreciate hearing my Church being called unorthodox, please stop. I don't want this wonderful thread by EkhristosAnesti to turn into another Orthodox versus Chalcedonian debate. Peace and grace be with you, Severian |
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 01:33:38 AM » |
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Actually, people have the right at OCnet to use the word "Orthodox" to refer exclusively to their own Church. You and I can do it too if we wanted to. It's OK. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 01:40:45 AM » |
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Actually, people have the right at OCnet to use the word "Orthodox" to refer exclusively to their own Church. You and I can do it too if we wanted to. It's OK. Thanks for informing me of that, I just like to be safe. I know that no one has to think that I'm Orthodox, and I accept that. However, I just think that on a thread discussing our admiration of the Coptic Church that it's rather unnecessary for anyone to call someone else unorthodox. In Christ, Severian |
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2011, 02:22:57 AM » |
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Severian, I in no way intended to insult you or your communion. If I did so, I apologize. My goal was not to spark a debate, only to say that if East and Orient were in union, I would love to have a Coptic Church as my parish, because I have long been drawn to its culture and customs.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2011, 02:28:11 AM » |
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Severian, I in no way intended to insult you or your communion. If I did so, I apologize. My goal was not to spark a debate, only to say that if East and Orient were in union, I would love to have a Coptic Church as my parish, because I have long been drawn to its culture and customs. Well thank you very much. I'm sorry if I have offended or misunderstood you. |
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