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« on: May 22, 2012, 04:34:40 PM »

I just watched the documentary Kumaré by Vikram Ghandi.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoWmNAS16fY

I personally think that his experiment is interesting though I have doubts about the methods. I don't know if anyone else here have seen the documentary but I think he makes a very good point when adressing the modern fascination of gurus: that salvation does not come from men.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 04:53:16 PM »

I see cruelty in what he did to prove what to me and I would venture to most ,is obvious. the people they showed with their hunger for the spiritual i.e. God made me tear up, but then again I am more of an emotional person so nothing new there..
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 05:16:04 PM »

I see cruelty in what he did to prove what to me and I would venture to most ,is obvious. the people they showed with their hunger for the spiritual i.e. God made me tear up, but then again I am more of an emotional person so nothing new there..

I agree but at least in the end he still had a positive effect on his "disciples". At least he didn't try to make them look stupid like Sacha Baron Cohen did in Borat.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 05:38:38 PM »

I see cruelty in what he did to prove what to me and I would venture to most ,is obvious. the people they showed with their hunger for the spiritual i.e. God made me tear up, but then again I am more of an emotional person so nothing new there..

I agree but at least in the end he still had a positive effect on his "disciples". At least he didn't try to make them look stupid like Sacha Baron Cohen did in Borat.

I don't know, I would imagine deep down they would feel betrayed, taken advantage of, used,etc... despite the positive effect they might have had while with him,( which might have been God doing what he does in his infinite mercy by interfering in human actions and history in this case even utilising the placebo effect, to initiate their spiritual journey despite what this man did.) it might be that they will forever be turned off from all things spiritual by the level of trust they have put on him, their heart broken and embittered by charlatans like him who will use them for one thing or another. forgive me, what he did was repulsive to me. I saw no redeeming qualities in it. however I do get the point you are making. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 05:50:46 PM »

They said in the ending credits that 10 of his 14 followers are still in contact with him, but of course some of them might feel betrayed. howeveer I think it was fascinating to see how easily people can be tricked into believing something.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 06:07:47 PM »

howeveer I think it was fascinating to see how easily people can be tricked into believing something.

Indeed! Lord have mercy on us, for we are easily deceived by ourselves, the world and the Devil. one desert father is said to have combated one such deception when Satan kept appearing to him like an angel of light, he kept saying to him ' why come to me? you must be mistaken, I am not the person you are sent to comfort, I am a sinner, not worthy to see and talk with angels' . the enemy does not rest, and is very interested in the state of eachone of our souls. our death remains his agenda, his method of achieving it varies from person to person. May the Lord Jesus Christ, shelter us!
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