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« on: November 21, 2003, 02:20:24 PM »

Anybody interested in reading Orthodox works together and then discussing them together?  I've done it before via email and I think the "message board" format would be an even better way of doing it.

Let me know your thoughts on the idea as a whole as well as any suggestions of books to start with.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2003, 02:50:29 PM »

That sounds good.

Some of my suggestions are:

The Spiritual Life and How to be Attuned to it by St. Theophan the Recluse.

The Arena: by St. Ignaty Brianchaninov.

The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church: by Vladimir Lossky


Anyone else?
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2003, 02:56:31 PM »

That sounds good.

Some of my suggestions are:

The Spiritual Life and How to be Attuned to it by St. Theophan the Recluse.

The Arena: by St. Ignaty Brianchaninov.

The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church: by Vladimir Lossky


Anyone else?

Glad to see somebody's interested.  I was supposed to be doing the St. Theophan book you suggested with some folks right now, but I loaned it out and can't get a hold of the person I loaned it to.  I think I'm going to have to buy it again.  That sounds like a good place to start to me.

Also, a group at my parish is thinking about a discussion group of On the Divine Images by St. John of Damascus.  It is a great book for anyone that hasn't read it.  As a convert it really helped me get over my issue with icons.  I think we're going to do that one so everybody can be a little more "armed" with a defence against the modern day iconoclasts.  

Give me an idea of date that would be good to start, I'd be happy to "facilitate" the reading and discussion.  

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2003, 08:41:15 PM »

I would be very interested in being involved in this. The books I am currently reading are:

1) The Way to Nicaea by John Behr (recommended by Dustin, but definitely NOT an easy read)

2) The Teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church by Rev. Michael Azkoul
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2003, 08:50:58 PM »

Any other book suggestions out there?  I personally think this could be a good idea, but of the three books mentioned above, I don't have any of them, and don't know when I'd be able to acquire them (depends on when I would get a chance to go to the SVS bookstore with cash in hand).  I do have The Path to Salvation: A Manual of Spiritual Transformation by Saint Theophan, and have been meaning to start reading it at some point.  One book that I've mentioned before and that I do recommend is The Mountain of Silence by Kyriacos Markides.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2003, 09:05:22 PM »

I've only read half of Markides' book, does that still count?
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2003, 10:16:59 PM »

"The Mountain of Silence by Kyriacos Markides."  
Definitely.
Will glady read it again so I can participate.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2003, 10:31:40 PM »

I'd gladly start from page one again and read the book through with the group, even if that means reading the whole book once and reading the first half of it twice!
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2003, 10:36:21 PM »

I have read it, but will read it again.

Although I do think that the book "The Way To Nicaea" would be a better book for discussion. And Dustin could give us his class and professors views since it was part of his class reading assignment at St. Vladimers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2003, 11:07:10 PM »

Wow, I don't check in for a day or two and there's a ton of replies.

I personally think on of St. Theophan's books would be good because his chapters tend to be short and it would be easy to play catch up if you fell behind a little bit.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2003, 11:28:56 PM »

I bought my copy of Markides' book at Borders.  I don't think it should be hard to find in a good "secular" bookstore.  

Tom, I've heard good things about The Way to Nicaea and would like to read it at some point as well.  I only made my suggestions because those are books that I have, unlike the others that were mentioned before my post, for which I'd have to do some hunting.  If we can decide on a book to start out with, and it is something I don't have, if the seminary bookstore has it and I can make it there during regular hours to buy it, I'd be cool with that.  It'd have to wait a little while, though, unless they are open the Friday after Thanksgiving, which I doubt.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2003, 11:41:47 PM »

I only made my suggestions because those are books that I have, unlike the others that were mentioned before my post, for which I'd have to do some hunting.

Yeah. You are right Phil, it would be better to pick a book that is easily available for everyone. And besides, the book I recommended is the type of book that you don't want to have to read if you are going to school full- time or have a demanding job. I find myself re-reading the chapter that I just finished to make sure I understand it. But then again--> I am not the "sharpest knife in the drawer"  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2003, 11:54:51 PM »

I've done that with almost every Orthodox book I've read.  It's frustrating as heck, but I think overall it is better.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2003, 01:45:21 AM »

We could always pick for the first book one of the St. Pachomius library e-texts that we can all read for free on the web, if nothing else, that would take out accessibility issues as I'm sure we all have a net connection if not time, money, or a nearby Orthodox bookstore.
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2003, 08:24:04 AM »

I like the idea.  I agree about using one of St. Theophan's books.
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2003, 10:10:07 PM »

I love suggestions like this, but I just hope I can discipline myself enough to stay with it.  I have or have access to several titles mentioned, but the idea of using an online e-text would be very interesting too.  We could very easily quote our author.  I'd like to give this a try.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2003, 11:18:27 PM »

I might be able to read a bit...assuming you want an Anglican chiming in.

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2003, 11:19:13 PM »

P.S. Nicodemus,  I like your Space Pup.

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2003, 01:33:05 AM »

Discipline in reading will be a problem for a full time student too...perhaps we can start reading something with small sections that are easily digestable?
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2003, 10:08:36 AM »

Wink Another source of online texts would be the Christian Classics Ethereal Library (http://www.ccel.org/) and the collection there of the set of Church Fathers.  Of course, there's also something about having a book in hand, to be carried about, and read at leisure, that may warrant an actual tome for this endeavor.  But whatever the case, it would be interesting to give this a try.  

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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2003, 10:44:37 AM »

Of course, there's also something about having a book in hand, to be carried about, and read at leisure, that may warrant an actual tome for this endeavor.  But whatever the case, it would be interesting to give this a try.  

I feel the same way.  I personally enjoy holding and reading an actual book and prefer it to reading online, even though there is so much great stuff to read online.  Reading online, I tend to get more distracted, and also after a while my eyes begin to bother me.  We probably weren't intended to stare at glowing glass boxes for sustained periods of time.  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2003, 12:03:28 PM »

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I feel the same way.  I personally enjoy holding and reading an actual book and prefer it to reading online, even though there is so much great stuff to read online.  Reading online, I tend to get more distracted, and also after a while my eyes begin to bother me.  We probably weren't intended to stare at glowing glass boxes for sustained periods of time.  

Kind of odd to see this from someone who has read and wrote more than 1100 messages worth of online text complaining about how hard it is to read.  :p
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2003, 12:43:24 PM »

Ok, so what's the verdict then? Are we going with something by St. Theophan? Something online? Or Mountain of Silence? Maybe we should start a poll and see what the final vote is? Mor, since you're a moderator maybe you'd like to start this?

Hmm....
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2003, 10:38:19 PM »

Well, while the poll is being taken, how about just general comments on what we're reading, or trying to, at the moment.  I picked up St. Innocent, Apostle to America.  Such a talented man, such a humble saint.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2003, 04:44:12 PM »

Touche, David.  Tongue
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