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Rock, Paper, Scissors
« on: July 21, 2018, 05:53:12 PM »
"So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias.  Then they prayed, 'Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.' Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles." (Acts 1:23-26)

This got me to thinking: why don't the OO, EO and RCs play several rounds of rock paper scissors, and let God reveal through it who holds to the genuine true theology? Or just do what the Apostles did? I'm not kidding. Seriously, why not? (Ok, I'm kidding a little, but still, what's the reasoning?)
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2018, 06:26:41 PM »
This got me to thinking: why don't the OO, EO and RCs play several rounds of rock paper scissors, and let God reveal through it who holds to the genuine true theology? Or just do what the Apostles did? I'm not kidding. Seriously, why not? (Ok, I'm kidding a little, but still, what's the reasoning?)
Isn't that how the Coptic Church chooses the Pope?  :angel:
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2018, 07:37:35 PM »
Rock, paper, scissors isn't random.  Casting lots is.
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2018, 07:52:06 PM »
I do not know if this makes a difference, but there is a difference in timing.  The casting of lots was done before Pentecost.  In Acts 15 there was a question which was discussed in a council after Pentecost.

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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2018, 08:26:58 PM »
I do not know if this makes a difference, but there is a difference in timing.  The casting of lots was done before Pentecost.  In Acts 15 there was a question which was discussed in a council after Pentecost.
This actually makes sense...
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2018, 11:52:25 PM »
I do not know if this makes a difference, but there is a difference in timing.  The casting of lots was done before Pentecost.  In Acts 15 there was a question which was discussed in a council after Pentecost.
This actually makes sense...

In what way?
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 12:20:24 AM »
The Church having been raised as an "eternal Pentecost", the men can teach conciliarly and safely. Otherwise, they expected God to manifest himself in some way, either through amazing theophanies or just intervening in the forces of reality, from whole enemy armies to small-scale random selection. There are other instances in the OT where people cast lots to understand God's will.
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 12:44:59 AM »
Thank you for explaining.
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2018, 05:16:07 AM »
This got me to thinking: why don't the OO, EO and RCs play several rounds of rock paper scissors, and let God reveal through it who holds to the genuine true theology? Or just do what the Apostles did? I'm not kidding. Seriously, why not? (Ok, I'm kidding a little, but still, what's the reasoning?)
Isn't that how the Coptic Church chooses the Pope?  :angel:

From given candidates. It also applies for the Serbian Church.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qm9M9Xj5c
« Last Edit: July 25, 2018, 05:17:39 AM by Dominika »
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2018, 08:55:53 AM »
This got me to thinking: why don't the OO, EO and RCs play several rounds of rock paper scissors, and let God reveal through it who holds to the genuine true theology? Or just do what the Apostles did? I'm not kidding. Seriously, why not? (Ok, I'm kidding a little, but still, what's the reasoning?)
Isn't that how the Coptic Church chooses the Pope?  :angel:

From given candidates. It also applies for the Serbian Church.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qm9M9Xj5c

It is not in Slavonic.
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2018, 09:24:54 AM »
This got me to thinking: why don't the OO, EO and RCs play several rounds of rock paper scissors, and let God reveal through it who holds to the genuine true theology? Or just do what the Apostles did? I'm not kidding. Seriously, why not? (Ok, I'm kidding a little, but still, what's the reasoning?)
Isn't that how the Coptic Church chooses the Pope?  :angel:

From given candidates. It also applies for the Serbian Church.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qm9M9Xj5c

It is not in Slavonic.

Video is from Egypt, as Copts do it in public, while Serbs not (behind iconostasis in chapel - actually, it's quite big - in the Patriarchate in Belgrade, by the oldest monk that can come).
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Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2018, 09:29:01 AM »
I'm writing it down on paper & pen . . The priest told me to write it down
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