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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2565 on: December 25, 2014, 10:44:22 PM »
You guys from America cant really understand tradition after all.
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« Reply #2566 on: December 26, 2014, 01:06:32 AM »
You guys from America cant really understand tradition after all.
I can't help it no one taught me how to ward off witches.

You too?  :(
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2567 on: December 26, 2014, 07:07:29 PM »
Patriarch Bartholomew should be removed from his high office, for praying with heretics and even daring to serve Divine Liturgy in presence of pope and pray with him, cannons and dogma are clear on dealings with heretics, since apostolic rules. Are we smarter than Apostles and Church fathers? We are blur shadow of them. Also patriarch of Antioch held hands with pope and prayed together at Vatican, he should be also removed. We have a lot of removing to do.  ;D If we are going to hug heretics, pray together with them and serve Liturgies, then Orthodox Church has no meaning. We should decide, remain firm in Orthodoxy, or submit to pope and Latin heresies and just shut up.





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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2568 on: December 26, 2014, 07:38:12 PM »
Patriarch Bartholomew should be removed from his high office, for praying with heretics and even daring to serve Divine Liturgy in presence of pope and pray with him, cannons and dogma are clear on dealings with heretics, since apostolic rules. Are we smarter than Apostles and Church fathers? We are blur shadow of them. Also patriarch of Antioch held hands with pope and prayed together at Vatican, he should be also removed. We have a lot of removing to do.  ;D If we are going to hug heretics, pray together with them and serve Liturgies, then Orthodox Church has no meaning. We should decide, remain firm in Orthodoxy, or submit to pope and Latin heresies and just shut up.





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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2569 on: December 26, 2014, 07:39:22 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2570 on: December 26, 2014, 07:41:31 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Sorry, it was what then? And what jurizdiction are you?
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2571 on: December 26, 2014, 08:14:26 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Heeheehee!
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2572 on: December 26, 2014, 08:35:31 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Heeheehee!

Why do you laugh? You think OCA did any better? You cant even form canonical territorial order nor canonical recognition, and only persecution you survived is by few sola scriptura bullies at some seminary debate. You have no saints and martyrs, nor real history. What did you offer to Orthodoxy? Serbian Orthodox Church has more world war 2 martyrs than OCA has believers, many times more. And that is just world war 2.
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« Reply #2573 on: December 26, 2014, 08:44:42 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Heeheehee!

Why do you laugh? You think OCA did any better? You cant even form canonical territorial order nor canonical recognition, and only persecution you survived is by few sola scriptura bullies at some seminary debate. You have no saints and martyrs, nor real history. What did you offer to Orthodoxy? Serbian Orthodox Church has more world war 2 martyrs than OCA has believers, many times more. And that is just world war 2.

You don't read much do you?

More important than your Serbian peepee measuring contest...what have you done for Christ today?
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2574 on: December 26, 2014, 08:51:00 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Heeheehee!

Why do you laugh? You think OCA did any better? You cant even form canonical territorial order nor canonical recognition, and only persecution you survived is by few sola scriptura bullies at some seminary debate. You have no saints and martyrs, nor real history. What did you offer to Orthodoxy? Serbian Orthodox Church has more world war 2 martyrs than OCA has believers, many times more. And that is just world war 2.

You don't read much do you?

More important than your Serbian peepee measuring contest...what have you done for Christ today?

It wasn't me who started this contest or started insulting Serbian Church. And if you read more, you would know there is nothing really i could do for Christ.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2575 on: December 26, 2014, 08:54:57 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 

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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2576 on: December 26, 2014, 08:56:22 PM »
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« Reply #2577 on: December 26, 2014, 08:58:12 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 


As are the Armenians.


But given that he doesn't think you are the Church........


The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2578 on: December 26, 2014, 08:59:49 PM »
Who said Serbian Church is perfect?

I certainly didn't.  It has never been Christian.

Heeheehee!

Why do you laugh? You think OCA did any better? You cant even form canonical territorial order nor canonical recognition, and only persecution you survived is by few sola scriptura bullies at some seminary debate. You have no saints and martyrs, nor real history. What did you offer to Orthodoxy? Serbian Orthodox Church has more world war 2 martyrs than OCA has believers, many times more. And that is just world war 2.

You don't read much do you?

More important than your Serbian peepee measuring contest...what have you done for Christ today?

It wasn't me who started this contest or started insulting Serbian Church. And if you read more, you would know there is nothing really i could do for Christ.
Yeah, ok.


I'll help you out.  Matthew 5:43-48
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2579 on: December 26, 2014, 09:03:30 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  


As are the Armenians.


But given that he doesn't think you are the Church........


The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

Some Orthodox Churches are more affected by ecumenism and some are lesser, but all are not doing good job, the Church of Constantinople is doing worst, Serbian Patriarch would like to hang out with pope as well like patriarch Bartholomew, but too bad for him, there are still too many alive witnesses of Roman-Catholic clergy war crimes in world war 2, so he cant. lol
New calendar Churches are doing really bad job at keeping tradition.
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« Reply #2580 on: December 26, 2014, 09:04:48 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 


As are the Armenians.


But given that he doesn't think you are the Church........


The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

I'm not defending P-vac.  But it would be nice if his views could be refuted without insulting his Church.  We don't need to stoop to his level.  :)

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« Reply #2581 on: December 26, 2014, 09:06:55 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 


As are the Armenians.


But given that he doesn't think you are the Church........


The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

I'm not defending P-vac.  But it would be nice if his views could be refuted without insulting his Church.  We don't need to stoop to his level.  :)

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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2582 on: December 26, 2014, 09:07:23 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 


As are the Armenians.


But given that he doesn't think you are the Church........


The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

I'm not defending P-vac.  But it would be nice if his views could be refuted without insulting his Church.  We don't need to stoop to his level.  :)


No...we don't.


But you must admit that it gets wearying to be repeatedly called 'not orthodox' by someone who then says their own Church is -it-.  (both in terms of suffering, martyrs, holiness overall)

We are all sinful humans, and cannot help but feel defensive in light of such comments (which are based in Pride) leveled at everyone.

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« Reply #2583 on: December 26, 2014, 09:09:34 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.
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« Reply #2584 on: December 26, 2014, 09:12:12 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
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« Reply #2585 on: December 26, 2014, 09:34:49 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ. 

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.

If you remain in communion with a church that is in heresy then you are yourself communing with heretics and are one.

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« Reply #2586 on: December 27, 2014, 12:57:19 PM »
Orthodox Churches that follow old calendar should stop sharing full communion with Orthodox Church that are following papal calendar.

Attend! The voice of logic and charity speaks.

You guys from America cant really understand tradition after all.

You would be surprised how many folks in America emigrated from the Old Country. In my parish alone, we have folks from Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, and Greece. Just stick around a while longer and you will get to know more of us, allowing you to get some free education not only on true Orthodox theology, ecclesiology, and praxis, but also in effective communication. You sound like a young person, so I also recommend that you stick around long enough for your brain to finish developing and your executive function is fully operational.

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« Reply #2587 on: December 27, 2014, 01:13:18 PM »
Orthodox Churches that follow old calendar should stop sharing full communion with Orthodox Church that are following papal calendar.

Attend! The voice of logic and charity speaks.

You guys from America cant really understand tradition after all.

You would be surprised how many folks in America emigrated from the Old Country. In my parish alone, we have folks from Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, and Greece. Just stick around a while longer and you will get to know more of us, allowing you to get some free education not only on true Orthodox theology, ecclesiology, and praxis, but also in effective communication. You sound like a young person, so I also recommend that you stick around long enough for your brain to finish developing and your executive function is fully operational.

I feel you. One OCA priest I met was from Palestine, where it all began...

Pish, he still doesn't know anything about tradition.

Anyway, this 'my Jesus is better than your Jesus' thing is so 1517... ::)
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2588 on: December 27, 2014, 01:19:41 PM »
Pish, he still doesn't know anything about tradition.

What do you know, as an inquirer?
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« Reply #2589 on: December 27, 2014, 02:41:39 PM »
Orthodox Churches that follow old calendar should stop sharing full communion with Orthodox Church that are following papal calendar.

Attend! The voice of logic and charity speaks.

You guys from America cant really understand tradition after all.

You would be surprised how many folks in America emigrated from the Old Country. In my parish alone, we have folks from Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, and Greece. Just stick around a while longer and you will get to know more of us, allowing you to get some free education not only on true Orthodox theology, ecclesiology, and praxis, but also in effective communication. You sound like a young person, so I also recommend that you stick around long enough for your brain to finish developing and your executive function is fully operational.

Of course i knew that 90% of Orthodox Christians in USA are all from Eastern Europe. And i believe you will not be able to brainwash me to like pope and new calendar.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2590 on: December 27, 2014, 02:50:15 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?
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« Reply #2591 on: December 27, 2014, 02:59:24 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
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« Reply #2592 on: December 27, 2014, 03:01:36 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?

Does your milkshake bring all the (old calendar) boys to the yard? 
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2593 on: December 27, 2014, 03:04:08 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?

Does your milkshake bring all the (old calendar) boys to the yard? 

I am not familiar with the meaning of that slang.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2594 on: December 27, 2014, 03:05:03 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2595 on: December 27, 2014, 03:07:54 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2596 on: December 27, 2014, 03:08:09 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?

Does your milkshake bring all the (old calendar) boys to the yard? 

I am not familiar with the meaning of that slang.

And they're like, it's better than yours [calendar].
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2597 on: December 27, 2014, 03:10:26 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.

Then why are you in communion with Patriarch +Irinej, who is in communion with the non-Orthodox by being in communion with New Calendar churches, and con-celebrates with them, and as such prays with the non-orthodox
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2598 on: December 27, 2014, 03:11:33 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?

Does your milkshake bring all the (old calendar) boys to the yard? 

I am not familiar with the meaning of that slang.

And they're like, it's better than yours [calendar].

Oh i see, it is better. New calendar was invented by pope, and then imposed in 1920s by masonic patriarch on certain Patriarchates (Constantinople, Alexandria, Athens).
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2599 on: December 27, 2014, 03:13:42 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.

Then why are you in communion with Patriarch +Irinej, who is in communion with the non-Orthodox by being in communion with New Calendar churches, and con-celebrates with them, and as such prays with the non-orthodox

That is good question. I guess i can endure indirect heresy. :D
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2600 on: December 27, 2014, 03:15:47 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.
You are the one advocating schism.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2601 on: December 27, 2014, 03:16:35 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.
You are the one advocating schism.

That stupid new calendar advocates schism, not me.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2602 on: December 27, 2014, 03:16:43 PM »
There are stories from elders who have met a demon and asked who the demon was and the demon replied that he was the demon that gets people to fight and argue over the calendars.

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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2603 on: December 27, 2014, 03:18:43 PM »
There are stories from elders who have met a demon and asked who the demon was and the demon replied that he was the demon that gets people to fight and argue over the calendars.

There was one Patriarch who somehow reigned three patriarchates and imposed new calendar on the Church, creating schism.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2604 on: December 27, 2014, 03:19:27 PM »
You might not call then Orthodox, Pravoslavac, but those on the new Calendar are more Christian than yourself, and I am proud to call be orthodox alongside them, as compared to you, who sullies the name of the Serbian Church, which I wish you were not a part of as I am a member of the Serbian church
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2605 on: December 27, 2014, 03:20:34 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.
You are the one advocating schism.

That stupid new calendar advocates schism, not me.
A calendar can do nothing but hang on the wall or sit on a desk. You, OTOH, by calling New Calendarists heretics advocate schism and/or praying with heretics, both of which are violations of the canons.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2606 on: December 27, 2014, 03:25:49 PM »
The Serbian Church is a Church of martyrs.  They have given much for Christ.  

The issue here is more with the superiority of declaring all the other participants here 'not good enough', while the Serbian Church is Orthodox.

The main issue is that Pravoslavac is not a member of the Serbian True Orthodox Church.  Since he is not, then he is not really Orthodox.

Serbian True Orthodox Church doesn't even have 1000 believers. They have one camp deep in the woods, no one really knows for them. They are schismatics. Heresy is to be fought inside the Church, heresy cannot be fought by schism.
So if your church were to follow your advice and break communion with the followers of the New Calendar, wouldn't that make your church schismatic? What, then, of your opinion that heresy cannot be fought by schism?

New calendar guys cant possibly think they are Orthodox, i thought you knew?
Funny. On the one hand, you say that heresy cannot be fought by schism, yet on the other you advocate schism. How inconsistent is that?

Simply, new calendar churches are not Orthodox, so the schisms in non-Orthodox Churches don't concern me.
You are the one advocating schism.

That stupid new calendar advocates schism, not me.
A calendar can do nothing but hang on the wall or sit on a desk. You, OTOH, by calling New Calendarists heretics advocate schism and/or praying with heretics, both of which are violations of the canons.

Why did you take that new calendar if it doesn't matter? You knew it will create schism and problems to the church. Canons? Really? Who cares about canons anymore, you sound like it is 700s AC. lol We apply like maybe 30% of canons, others don't matter because we are too nice or weak to follow.
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2607 on: December 27, 2014, 03:26:39 PM »
I'm happy that the real-life Serbs I know would like to drink šljivovica with me and joke around rather than yammer on about my St. Tikhon's Monastery 2015 wall calendar (New Style).
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2608 on: December 27, 2014, 03:28:27 PM »
I'm happy that the real-life Serbs I know would like to drink šljivovica with me and joke around rather than yammer on about my St. Tikhon's Monastery 2015 wall calendar (New Style).

We're too full of Christmas cheer right now to bother arguing much. ;D
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Re: Old vs. New Calendar?
« Reply #2609 on: December 27, 2014, 03:28:31 PM »
I'm happy that the real-life Serbs I know would like to drink šljivovica with me and joke around rather than yammer on about my St. Tikhon's Monastery 2015 wall calendar (New Style).

In real life i don't bother People with calendar, but i also don't drink.
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