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Offline Alveus Lacuna

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Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« on: June 11, 2009, 02:17:46 AM »
I was reading through Exodus this evening in my Orthodox Study Bible and made a note of this verse, as it confused me.  When I tried to look it up online I noticed the numbering was different, so perhaps this is a difference between the Septuagint and the Masoretic Text.

The numbering in the OSB is Exodus 22:27, but in everything online it is Exodus 22:28 -

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Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

Most translations use God rather than gods, but I was struck by how odd the commandment seemed if it is in fact for gods.

Can anyone clarify the meaning of the text or the details behind the original language used?

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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 02:26:06 AM »
The Greek Septuagint has this phrase as θεοὺς οὐ κακολογήσεις (theous ou kakologiseis). The word is definitely gods, not God.

Does the OSB offer any explanatory notes?
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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 02:31:45 AM »
Does the OSB offer any explanatory notes?

None whatsoever.
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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 03:50:47 AM »
Psalm 82:1
 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

John 10:34
 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.


My bible footnotes say "gods" was used in reference to judges. Newer or modern versions of the bible say "God".
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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 05:49:05 PM »
There's probably a problem with Elohim again. Elohim means gods and was probably used so as to indicate the Holy Trinity, I'm not sure.
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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2009, 05:54:51 PM »
On this page: http://bible.cc/exodus/22-28.htm  if you scroll down to commentaries, it says "gods" means judges or magistrates?
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Re: Thou shalt not revile the gods?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »
There's probably a problem with Elohim again. Elohim means gods and was probably used so as to indicate the Holy Trinity, I'm not sure.
I asked an Orthodox priest this myself in person, "what is the literal translation of Elohim?" He said, "Lords". He also added that it was a reference to the trinity.
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