Author Topic: Brotherhood of Holy Cross  (Read 1629 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline mike

  • Filthy Chalcedonian Liar
  • Protostrator
  • ***************
  • Posts: 23,927
  • Pray for Christians in Radom!
  • Faith: Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Diocese of Białystok and Gdańsk
Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« on: June 07, 2009, 01:42:42 PM »
I found the site of the organisations which calls itself the Brotherhood of Holy Cross (Rus: Братствo Креста Господня).

They claim to have Primates of Churches of Constantinople, Romania, Cyprus, Jerusalem, EP's Russian Exarchate, EP's Estonian Church and Romanian's Moldavian Church as well as Grand Masters of Maltan and Teuton Orders and even Augusto Pinochet.

Who are they? Are they for real? What do they want?
Pray for orthonorm (Jason)

Hyperdox Herman, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - fb, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - tt

not everything I typed before [insert current date] may reflect my current views on the subject

Offline Heorhij

  • Merarches
  • ***********
  • Posts: 8,576
    • Mississippi University for Women
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 02:03:36 PM »
Well, I don't know... This organization seems strange to me. Just take a look at the list of their Chevaliers: Augusto Pinochet; Alexander Solzhenitsyn; two representatives of the Roman Catholic Church; one very old (must be in his 80-s if not 90-s) Russian artist known for his links to extreme Russian nationalist organizations; one geneticist (Vladimir Paponov - I believe I know him personally, he was a junior researcher at the Institute of Medical Genetics of the Academy of Medical Sciences of the former USSR in the 1980-s, when I was a graduate student there); a well-known Russian movie star; a little known Moldavian politician; and a number of high-positioned Orthodox Church hierarchs, including His All Holiness EP Bartholomew... A weird mix. :)

I wonder, does HAH Bartholomew even know that he is a Chevalier of this Brotherhood? :)
« Last Edit: June 07, 2009, 02:06:17 PM by Heorhij »
Love never fails.

Offline mike

  • Filthy Chalcedonian Liar
  • Protostrator
  • ***************
  • Posts: 23,927
  • Pray for Christians in Radom!
  • Faith: Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Diocese of Białystok and Gdańsk
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 02:07:30 PM »
I fought so first but there are some pictures of this Priest, who is a top member, giving the crosses to that Primates of Russian Exarchate and Romanian Moldavian Church. Maybe it's not all fraud.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2009, 02:07:47 PM by mike »
Pray for orthonorm (Jason)

Hyperdox Herman, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - fb, Eastern Orthodox Christian News - tt

not everything I typed before [insert current date] may reflect my current views on the subject

Offline Heorhij

  • Merarches
  • ***********
  • Posts: 8,576
    • Mississippi University for Women
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 02:19:12 PM »
No, I don't think they are fraud, they are real, but it seems to me that they just give membership and the status of Chevaliers to a bunch of people whom they seem to like for something, perhaps without even bothering to ask these people what they think.:)

One thing that bothers me is that they included Stalin in their list of Generalissimos (http://www.bratstvokresta.ru/generall.html), and the tone of their sketch of Stalin's biography is rather approving...
Love never fails.

Offline Fr. George

  • formerly "Cleveland"
  • Administrator
  • Stratopedarches
  • *******
  • Posts: 20,426
  • May the Lord bless you and keep you always!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 02:39:52 PM »
No, I don't think they are fraud, they are real, but it seems to me that they just give membership and the status of Chevaliers to a bunch of people whom they seem to like for something, perhaps without even bothering to ask these people what they think.:)

One thing that bothers me is that they included Stalin in their list of Generalissimos (http://www.bratstvokresta.ru/generall.html), and the tone of their sketch of Stalin's biography is rather approving... 

I think that is also what's happening: they give out their honors to people without telling them that the organization has these positions, goals, purposes, etc.
"If you are going to serve the Lord, be prepared for times when you will be put to the test. Be sincere and determined. Keep calm when trouble comes. Stay with the Lord; never abandon Him and you will be prosperous at the end of your days. Accept whatever happens to you. Even if you suffer humiliation, be patient. Gold is tested by fire and human character is tested in the furnace of humiliation. Trust the Lord and He will help you. Walk straight in His ways and put your hope in Him. " Sir 2:1-6

Offline Fr. George

  • formerly "Cleveland"
  • Administrator
  • Stratopedarches
  • *******
  • Posts: 20,426
  • May the Lord bless you and keep you always!
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 02:41:33 PM »
"If you are going to serve the Lord, be prepared for times when you will be put to the test. Be sincere and determined. Keep calm when trouble comes. Stay with the Lord; never abandon Him and you will be prosperous at the end of your days. Accept whatever happens to you. Even if you suffer humiliation, be patient. Gold is tested by fire and human character is tested in the furnace of humiliation. Trust the Lord and He will help you. Walk straight in His ways and put your hope in Him. " Sir 2:1-6

Offline observer

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 546
  • Vivre die Raznitsa!
Re: Brotherhood of Holy Cross
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 12:04:10 AM »
Oh it's those Hospitallers again!  Probably  a scion of Baron S von Beningsen.  They make all kinds of VPs members often without their knowledge. They claim to have a castle on Rhodos.  Big push to make members in UK, many moons ago :D
Thou shalt not prefer one thing to another (Law of Liberalism)