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Candidate Mitro Repo could face expulsion from priesthood and Orthodox Church
Fifth century rule could lead to removal
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Candidate+Mitro+Repo+could+face+expulsion+from+priesthood+and+Orthodox+Church/1135246083246
 
Mitro Repo, a priest of the Finnish Orthodox Church who is running for the European Parliament on the ticket of the Social Democratic Party, could face expulsion from the Orthodox priesthood, and possibly from the Orthodox Church itself.

     Repo has been summoned to attend a meeting of the Council of Bishops of the Orthodox Church, under the leadership of Archbishop Leo.
     The invitation mentions sections of two old canonic rules from the second and fifth centuries, which Repo can be seen to have violated.
     The sixth Apostolic Rule forbids a “bishop, presbyter, or deacon” of the church from taking on worldly tasks, on pain of removal from his post.
     The 81st rule of the Holy Apostles states that it is not proper for a bishop or presbyter to “surrender to any worldly administrative matters”.

Instead, he should dedicate his time to ecclesiastical matters, as “nobody can serve two masters”.
     
Even more severe is the seventh rule approved at the the Council of Khalkedon in 451, which orders that clerics and monks in the church must not take on military service or any worldly offices. Those who do so, and who do not repent, would face expulsion from the church.

     Previous reactions to Repo’s candidacy have been limited to speculation that he would have to temporarily relinquish his role as priest, and not wear his cassock while campaigning.

      Helsingin Sanomat has learned that Mitro Repo has not been able to prepare for his confrontation with the bishops, because he has not been given clear questions that he is expected to answer.

     The Finnish bishops have even been in touch with the Ecumenical Patriarchate in Istanbul over the matter.
     
The view of Archbishop Leo is straightforward. He wrote earlier this year in the Finnish Orthodox publication Analog:

      “The canonic tradition of the Orthodox Church takes a negative view of the participation of priests in politics. The background is that of keeping Caesar and God in their own areas. A priest who teaches the truth of God in church cannot, in the same role, move into the field of politics, where the basis of decision-making is never truth, but only necessity.”
      The Repo case is also of interest to Minister of Justice Tuija Brax (Green).
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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 08:02:23 PM »
Now this is what I call hypocricy on behalf of the Finnish Synod.

We should note that Fr Mitro Repo belongs to the "opposition" in the diocese of Helsinki and has publicly confronted innovative ideas, such as ordination of women by the Finnish Orthodox Church.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 08:20:05 AM »
 :o Finland sure have been "hot stuff" when it comes to the news section of this forum.  ;D

The short story by a finn (me)

Father Mitro: An altogether good guy who for some strange reason want to run in the EU election.

Response from HH Archbishop Leo: Father Mitro will not be able to function (or dress) as a priest while campaigning or while in office.

Pesonally I think Archbishop Leo has handled this quite well.

EDIT: The headline "...expulsion from priesthood and Orthodox Church" is purely sensational, there have been no talk about "expulsion from the Orthodox Church" only about his position within the Church.
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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 09:41:36 AM »
I thought Fr. Repo was on a 3 year Leave of absence from active ministry?  Has that term come to an end?

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 10:06:26 AM »
:o Finland sure have been "hot stuff" when it comes to the news section of this forum.  ;D

The short story by a finn (me)

Father Mitro: An altogether good guy who for some strange reason want to run in the EU election.

Response from HH Archbishop Leo: Father Mitro will not be able to function (or dress) as a priest while campaigning or while in office.

Pesonally I think Archbishop Leo has handled this quite well.

EDIT: The headline "...expulsion from priesthood and Orthodox Church" is purely sensational, there have been no talk about "expulsion from the Orthodox Church" only about his position within the Church.

My apologies if the headline was inaccurate, I was merely copying what had been written in the article. I wasn't trying to "add more fuel to the fire."
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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009, 10:32:12 AM »
O, Finland!  :-X

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009, 12:24:01 PM »
I thought Fr. Repo was on a 3 year Leave of absence from active ministry?  Has that term come to an end?

Might be, I don't actually know but it sounds familiar. However, a leave of absence does not automatically prevent a priest from performing priestly functions.

My apologies if the headline was inaccurate, I was merely copying what had been written in the article. I wasn't trying to "add more fuel to the fire."

 ;D I know you didn't write the headline. It is the the newspaper Helsingin sanomat that is being sensational.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 01:10:51 PM »
Finland is so much trouble lately.  Oh well, at least they still have Wintersun.
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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 10:26:06 AM »
After hearing Father Mitro the Council of Finnish Bishops published yesterday a bulletin in which they forbid him performing priesty functions and using priestly symbols. They base their decision on 6. and 81. Apostolic Canons and on 7. Canon of the Council of Chalcedon and explain briefly in the bulletin why the Orthodox Church does not accept policital activity of her priests. Father Mitro may ask for removal of ban after he has ceased his political activity.



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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 05:50:17 AM »
He've got in:

http://coptreal.com/ShowSubjectEn.aspx?SID=20689

:D You broke the news for me mike. I have not read any newspapers yet.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 06:07:07 AM »
It's interesting that he got 10 thousands more votes than there are EO in Finland.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 09:55:50 AM »
It's interesting that he got 10 thousands more votes than there are EO in Finland.

Not really surprising at all (to me here). I don't think he received a higher percentile of orthodox votes than from the general public.
He didn't brand himself as the "orthodox" alternative. I think he tried for the "cares for people" alternative, and apparently he succeeded :D.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 10:14:32 AM »
He've got in:

http://coptreal.com/ShowSubjectEn.aspx?SID=20689

:D You broke the news for me mike. I have not read any newspapers yet.

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Repo, or Father Mitro as he is known by most Finns, has written numerous books and columns on a variety of subjects, including depression and school shootings, and has appeared on many television programmes always wearing his black robe.
You all have school shootings.  I thought that was only Violent Gun America.
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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 04:35:18 AM »
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Repo, or Father Mitro as he is known by most Finns, has written numerous books and columns on a variety of subjects, including depression and school shootings, and has appeared on many television programmes always wearing his black robe.
You all have school shootings.  I thought that was only Violent Gun America.

Yes the phenomena of school shootings is spreading. My parish lost a member in the Kauhajoki tragedy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauhajoki_school_shooting

It is very likely that Mitro got elected because he seems like a man that actually cares about people and the current state of our society, while other politicians seems to care more for themselves or their party.

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Re: Finnish priest running for European Parlimaint may face Expulsion
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2009, 06:45:56 AM »
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Repo, or Father Mitro as he is known by most Finns, has written numerous books and columns on a variety of subjects, including depression and school shootings, and has appeared on many television programmes always wearing his black robe.
You all have school shootings.  I thought that was only Violent Gun America.

Yes the phenomena of school shootings is spreading. My parish lost a member in the Kauhajoki tragedy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauhajoki_school_shooting

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                           and both come out of your mouth