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Pronunciation question
« on: May 15, 2009, 03:18:37 AM »
How do you pronounce these abbreviations:

ROCOR
OCA
GOARCH
ACROD
?

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 03:31:02 AM »
How do you pronounce these abbreviations:

ROCOR
OCA
GOARCH
ACROD
?

rokor (although with English and not a Polish "r"!)

o- cy* - ej

go-arcz (again with an English r)

And I have never actually heard the last one pronounced before.   

*That is probably the hardest to describe - the sound is between the Polish s and c and followed more by an i sound. 
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 03:39:23 AM »
Thanks! I wondered mostly when to pronounce c as si and where as k

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 05:17:32 AM »
ACROD = AKROD (English R)
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 05:58:31 AM »
Thank you all!

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 12:16:42 PM »
And I have never actually heard the last one pronounced before.   

You're obviously not from Pennsylvania, then.


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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 01:51:28 PM »
Thanks! I wondered mostly when to pronounce c as si and where as k

Typically if c comes before or after a vowel in the middle of a word or if c is the last letter in a word, it's usually pronounced as K.  At the beginnings of words, there's no hard and fast rule.  Most of the time it depends on if the word is derived from Latin or Greek it will usually be the K sound.  If it's from French it's most likely the soft "si" sound.  (Again, not hard and fast rules, though.  Your best bet is to go to www.dictionary.com and look up the word there -- it should have an audio file so you can hear it in American English.)
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 12:03:32 PM »
Generally I do not have problems with it. I was only wondering how it is in acronyms.

One more question:

Why "CH" in "GOARCH" is pronounced like Polish "cz" instead of Polish "ch"? Is "Archdiocese" also pronounced with "cz"?

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 12:10:41 PM »
mike,

There is no proper way to pronounce 'goarch'. It is just part of an Internet URL and not a word.

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 12:53:12 PM »
So they aren't used in speech?
like:
I attend an ACROD Parish or something like that?

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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 01:40:21 PM »
ACROD is used in speech (at least among people who have spoken to me!), but GOARCH is not with one exception: when directing people to go look at something placed on the Archdiocesan website (Ex.: "It's on the GOARCH Website, under the 'How To Chant' menu!").

As an example, if people asked about the parish I serve in, I would state that it is a GOA parish, or a 'Greek' parish. I would not say it was a GOARCH parish.
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 02:09:24 PM »
Why "CH" in "GOARCH" is pronounced like Polish "cz" instead of Polish "ch"? Is "Archdiocese" also pronounced with "cz"?

If you're going to say "GOARCH", then you should probably pronounce the "CH" in the same way as "Archdiocese" or simply "Arch."  That is the idea: Greek Orthodox ARCHdiocese.
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 03:36:07 PM »
So they aren't used in speech?
like:
I attend an ACROD Parish or something like that?

Seeing as I DO attend an ACROD parish I can guarantee you if I articulated "ACROD" as a discrete word at church tomorrow no one there would know what I was talking about.
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 03:52:38 PM »
So they aren't used in speech?
like:
I attend an ACROD Parish or something like that?

Seeing as I DO attend an ACROD parish I can guarantee you if I articulated "ACROD" as a discrete word at church tomorrow no one there would know what I was talking about.

Wow! That's interesting to me, since when I was in Ohio and Indiana I heard folks using 'ACROD' as an adjective!

Maybe it's just a local idiom....America sure has is local flavors!
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 04:03:35 PM »
So they aren't used in speech?
like:
I attend an ACROD Parish or something like that?

Seeing as I DO attend an ACROD parish I can guarantee you if I articulated "ACROD" as a discrete word at church tomorrow no one there would know what I was talking about.

Wow! That's interesting to me, since when I was in Ohio and Indiana I heard folks using 'ACROD' as an adjective!

Maybe it's just a local idiom....America sure has is local flavors!

In PA among the original, founding parishes, we're still the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Diocese of the USA...any acronym thereof fails to roll off the tongue. Of course a few of us (including some priests) are cyber-savvy and "ACROD" makes sense to them.
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Re: Pronunciation question
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 04:29:37 PM »
As an example, if people asked about the parish I serve in, I would state that it is a GOA parish, or a 'Greek' parish. I would not say it was a GOARCH parish.

I have rarely heard GOARCH, but I have still heard it. 

I agree though that GOA is much more common.  Pronounced: [dzi-o-ej]