So the medical answer is "probably"?
Verifiable (pregnancy has been verified by a pregnancy test) "spontaneous loss of pregnancy in in the entire female population (rates are higher or lower depending on age of mother, age of father, previous history of miscarriage, and number of pregnancies. First pregnancies have a higher rate of spontaneous miscarriage.
* 1 in 4 women who gets pregnant will experience a miscarriage
* 15% of all pregnancies ends in a miscarriage
These are numbers that women have no control over....there may be a chromosome abnormality, hormonal imbalance, or the fertilized egg fails to implant or implants in a location that results in fetal death.
There are estimates that anywhere from 30-60 percent of all pregnancies result in spontaneous miscarriage, these statistics include loss so early and asymptomatic, that the moms don't even know they were pregnant. (don't gang up on me, I know it's controversial, it's probably not as high as 60 percent, but I know it's not ZERO, either). These studies and stats are not from propaganda put out by pro-choice groups...this is just medical facts, and the way the human body works. Take it up with God.
My question is of all the articles I have read claiming the birth control pill is just causes abortions, there have been no studies sited, if there have been any studies, that the pill causes spontaneous abortions over and above these rates. I know the way it's supposed to work is to inhibit ovulation....but if there is ovulation, the imbalance in hormone could result in loss of the fetus, though I have located studies that women who get pregnant while on the pill are NOT more likely to miscarry....so in is conceivable (no pun intended
) that there are actually less pregnancy losses for women taking the pill...if it works properly and there is no egg released to be at risk for these "naturally" occurring miscarriages.
My point is, if you are against "artificial birth control", just come out and say it-if that is what the church teaches, that should be all that needs to be said
The culture wars/that spreading inaccurate information at the speed of light via the internet has escalated the pro-life rhetoric to absurdity and harmed their own cause and credibility;--and unless you can back it up with studies, statistics, or even a theory to back up claims... (and, btw,conducted by parties without an agenda) please, or please don't insult women's intelligence with junk science, or please don't try to manipulate/or threaten them with accusations that there is no difference between a woman using taking the pill, and a woman who deliberately walks into an abortion clinic and kills her baby. (yes I was told that over at CAF, when I mentioned I used the pill while on longterm medication for lupus (a chronic.lifelong condition). The medicine, methotrexate is used to induce abortions in ectopic pregnancy and but will cause most pregnancies to end in miscarriage; and if a pregnancy does go to term, the rate of severe birth defects is as high as 70+ percent....but on the bright side; several people spoke very highly of what a blessing a "special needs"child
can be, and can actually strengthen a marriage....I checked the calendar, it was not April 1st
, and needless to say, go to CAF anymore....ironically I was over there to improve my marriage because my husband is Roman Catholic and I am always trying to find common ground and understand his faith. I gave that up too....our destiny is not common ground, it's learning humility, love, forgiveness and developing the superhuman ability to control the tongue.
The thing on the BCP was an excuse to post and get around to asking for prayers, but also a wee bit of a preemptive strike to avoid some of the most useless, rude, and hurtful waste of time space and energy that have made the art of civil conversation and respect rare birds on too many threads;
I would like to have an conversation that qualifies as I-Thou and not I-it
In other I would like to be an equal partner, (a brother. sister in Christ) in a conversation, not somebody's project, or "yes" man...if you want to know if something your church believes, or some worship practice or devotion has the Orthodox stamp of approval...I DON'T KNOW.
..IN FACT THERE IS SO MUCH I DON'T KNOW, REAL LIFE.FAITH STRUGGLES, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD TELL ME
HOW TO GET UP AFTER YOU FALL OR FAIL FOR THE 50,000TH TIME.
:angel:see that angel smiley that won't even show it's face in my post (that's par for the course lately)....definitely NOT me; do you have anything with horns.
I don't know if this post is in the right place, but I have been sick and stuck at home and right now, this is one of the few places I can hang out an talk to other Orthodox Christians....I suppose this whole thing belongs where-ever anybody could offer up a prayer for me, for us.