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To contribute to the inflation of "clever" proposal to "solve" jurisdictional "mess" on this forum, I offer this pool. Everyone has only 5 votes.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 04:07:50 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 05:14:29 PM » |
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Oh, but he's soooo cute, the troll in the cartoon...tee hee |
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The unworthy hierodeacon, Vasyl
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 06:13:56 PM » |
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Oh, but he's soooo cute, the troll in the cartoon...tee hee
Okay, then, how about THIS troll:  |
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 06:24:37 PM » |
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Serbs aren't in EU yet. What do they want to disband European Parliament for?
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 06:27:18 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 06:37:27 PM » |
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What baffles me in all of this is the conduct of those who ardently hate the current Ecumenical Patriarch.
On the one hand you have posters such as Fr. Anastasios. While I ultimately disagree with his conclusions, I respect the fact that he has clearly and coherently presented them without any hint of rancour. And rather than pouting on an internet forum, he has actually done something positive with his beliefs - doing real missionary work for Orthodoxy in North America.
On the other hand, the unholy trinity of the Guru, the (Peace be upon him) and the Orthodoxvoyeur spew pages of wrath about the primus inter pares of their own Church. I'm all for dissent and criticism. There certainly have been failures of the EP and addressing those with the purpose of strengthening not only the Great Church of Christ, but all of the local Orthodox Churches ought to be our aim. But I'm not really sure what the point has been in any of these rants. I fail to see how the MP really offers a better solution to the problems at hand (it has its own captivity and political baggage). Honestly though, it would be an interesting and possibly enlightening discussion, but I just don't see it happening here. And more to the point for the unholy trinity - why are any of you still in communion with Constantinople ?
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 09:22:04 PM » |
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Time for some regime change at the Phanar!
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 09:25:06 PM » |
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"Christianity is not a philosophy, not a doctrine, but life." - Elder Sophrony (Sakharov)
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 09:37:22 PM » |
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What baffles me in all of this is the conduct of those who ardently hate the current Ecumenical Patriarch.
On the one hand you have posters such as Fr. Anastasios. While I ultimately disagree with his conclusions, I respect the fact that he has clearly and coherently presented them without any hint of rancour. And rather than pouting on an internet forum, he has actually done something positive with his beliefs - doing real missionary work for Orthodoxy in North America.
On the other hand, the unholy trinity of the Guru, the (Peace be upon him) and the Orthodoxvoyeur spew pages of wrath about the primus inter pares of their own Church. I'm all for dissent and criticism. There certainly have been failures of the EP and addressing those with the purpose of strengthening not only the Great Church of Christ, but all of the local Orthodox Churches ought to be our aim. But I'm not really sure what the point has been in any of these rants. I fail to see how the MP really offers a better solution to the problems at hand (it has its own captivity and political baggage). Honestly though, it would be an interesting and possibly enlightening discussion, but I just don't see it happening here. And more to the point for the unholy trinity - why are any of you still in communion with Constantinople ?
Christ is Risen! He is still in the diptychs, and hasn't officially done anything, yet, to get struck, again, from them. Maybe Ozgeorge can help with that paranoia and persecution complex. Then again, maybe not. Weder nach Canossa noch Phanar gehen wir nicht. |
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2009, 09:59:32 PM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2009, 10:02:42 PM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada.
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If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 10:04:27 PM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada.
Christ is risen! Yes, like the Greek Orthodox in America. |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
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If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 10:13:02 PM » |
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Or Roman Catholics in America. God knows there not really American.
They don't even have America in the name of their church. It's really un American.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 10:40:45 PM » |
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Or Roman Catholics in America. God knows there not really American.
They don't even have America in the name of their church. It's really un American.
Don't know about, or care about, that. But it is Ultramontanist. |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
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If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2009, 10:47:30 PM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM » |
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Or Roman Catholics in America. God knows there not really American.
They don't even have America in the name of their church. It's really un American.
Don't know about, or care about, that. But it is Ultramontanist. Good point, they would be truly American if Gallican. What we do know is they're not American, Americans. Despite our otherwise limited knowledge of them. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2009, 11:19:02 PM » |
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I never knew CH Robinson Worldwide was headquartered there. |
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2009, 11:19:30 PM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada. *reaches for weapon* Calm down, eh. They're not coming for your moose. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 11:21:17 PM » |
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Or Roman Catholics in America. God knows there not really American.
They don't even have America in the name of their church. It's really un American.
Don't know about, or care about, that. But it is Ultramontanist. Good point, they would be truly American if Gallican. What we do know is they're not American, Americans. Despite our otherwise limited knowledge of them. Personally, I would have preferred that the Gallican kept my neck of the woods here. Or perhaps I should say, our acre of snow. |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
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If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 11:26:46 PM » |
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No idea what that means, but if it means American Orthodox and Orthodox American Canadians are free from the clutches of foreign despots, I'm all for it.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 12:30:43 AM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada. *reaches for weapon* Calm down, eh. They're not coming for your moose. *reaches for pet beaver* |
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 12:37:02 AM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada. *reaches for weapon* Calm down, eh. They're not coming for your moose. *reaches for pet beaver* LMAO |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada. *reaches for weapon* Calm down, eh. They're not coming for your moose. *reaches for pet beaver* LOL. Really. Almost crying. |
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2009, 12:51:01 AM » |
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It's an issue all American Orthodox should be concerned with. Especially the American Orthodox in Canada. *reaches for weapon* Calm down, eh. They're not coming for your moose. *reaches for pet beaver* LOL. Really. Almost crying. Be afraid. Be very afraid! |
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2009, 08:56:15 AM » |
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The only rational thing to do here is boo each others national anthems before a hockey game.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2009, 01:22:34 PM » |
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The only rational thing to do here is boo each others national anthems before a hockey game.
And what is it about these awful singers at hockey games? Sheesh, I know the Star Spangled Banner is hard to sing, but you'd think they could find somebody -- and the commenters on TV always seem to think these guys that can't hit the notes are great. Go Penguins! |
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2009, 01:39:59 PM » |
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The only rational thing to do here is boo each others national anthems before a hockey game. IS OUTRAGE! Did they have hockey national anthems in 17th Century Constantinople? |
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The only rational thing to do here is boo each others national anthems before a hockey game. IS OUTRAGE! Did they have hockey national anthems in 17th Century Constantinople? I was always under the impression that we had 8 Tones because of the best-of-7 games in the playoffs, with the 8th being for when the Emperor attended the game. |
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2009, 02:10:51 PM » |
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The only rational thing to do here is boo each others national anthems before a hockey game. IS OUTRAGE! Did they have hockey national anthems in 17th Century Constantinople? I was always under the impression that we had 8 Tones because of the best-of-7 games in the playoffs, with the 8th being for when the Emperor attended the game. Now that seems plausible... and awfully thoughtful! |
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