Author Topic: Has Anyone Else Noticed a Strong Roman Catholic Influence on this Forum? (Read 33056 times)

PeterTheAleut · « **on:** April 21, 2009, 03:52:20 PM »

Quote from: Douglas on April 21, 2009, 02:15:33 PM

... and quite frankly, I don't understand the strong Roman Catholic influence on this entire forum which I had thought was an Orthodox forum.

Really?

I find this statement quite intriguing, particularly since I've not noticed such an RC influence on our forum in the 3+ years I've been here, the last two of which I've even spent reviewing posts as a moderator. Would you care to elaborate on what you see as this RC influence so we can see it for ourselves?

Papist · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2009, 03:55:13 PM »

At one time my attitude here was not the best but now I am genuinely trying to understand Eastern Orthodoxy on its own terms (although I have no intentions of converting) and I desire to learn more about the similarities and differences between Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism. Further, I would like to help correct any misunderstandings about Catholicism that are floating around but I have no intention of trying to convert anyone.
That all being said, is that the kind of Catholic influence that is being spoken of?

Schultz · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2009, 03:55:28 PM »

Perhaps it's just the sheer presence of our resident Roman Catholics who are apparently allowed to actually post on here in violation of some obscure and very ancient Orthodox canon

Or perhaps it's the forum's general policy to discourage outright caricatures of Roman Catholic doctrine?

PoorFoolNicholas · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2009, 03:58:42 PM »

I really don't know how allowing Catholics to speak their minds and debate back and forth with us is a "strong catholic influence". Care to explain Douglas?

mike · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:01:38 PM »

Roman Catolics allowed to speak their minds openly?? IS OUTRAGE!

Deacon Lance · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:08:38 PM »

I always considered myslef a Mild Greek Catholic Presence

admiralnick · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:09:27 PM »

Theres a strong roman catholic influence? In the forum for discussions between orthodox and RCs then I would probably agree.... On the board as a whole...... I haven't seen it in the 3 years I've been here.

-Nick

mike · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:11:00 PM »

I've noticed only two Catholic active members: Deacon Lance and Papist. I really appreciate their contribution to the forum.

AMM · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »

I think Papist might be Roman Catholic. I'm not sure though. It's just a hunch.

PeterTheAleut · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:12:53 PM »

Quote from: mike on April 21, 2009, 04:11:00 PM

I've noticed only two Catholic active members: Deacon Lance and Papist. I really appreciate their contribution to the forum.

Don't forget lubeltri.

Veniamin · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:13:28 PM »

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 04:12:27 PM

I think Papist might be Roman Catholic. I'm not sure though. It's just a hunch.

Nah, I think he's a Copt. You know, the ones with the other Pope.

mike · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:15:47 PM »

Quote from: PeterTheAleut on April 21, 2009, 04:12:53 PM

Quote from: mike on April 21, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
I've noticed only two Catholic active members: Deacon Lance and Papist. I really appreciate their contribution to the forum.
Don't forget lubeltri.

Oh, yes, he also posts quite often but not as often as that two.

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 04:13:28 PM

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 04:12:27 PM
I think Papist might be Roman Catholic. I'm not sure though. It's just a hunch.

Nah, I think he's a Copt.

Coptic Catholic Church's member? He might be.

rwprof · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM »

What you perceive is the Hidden Leadership of the Illuminati. It's long been obvious that this forum is really an organ for achieving the New World Order.

mike · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:21:35 PM »

Quote from: rwprof on April 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM

What you perceive is the Hidden Leadership of the Illuminati. It's long been obvious that this forum is really an organ for achieving the New World Order.

And shaved Priests in every parish!

Papist · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 04:12:27 PM

I think Papist might be Roman Catholic. I'm not sure though. It's just a hunch.

Reallllllllly? What gave it away?

Papist · « **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:37:40 PM »

Quote from: mike on April 21, 2009, 04:21:35 PM

Quote from: rwprof on April 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM
What you perceive is the Hidden Leadership of the Illuminati. It's long been obvious that this forum is really an organ for achieving the New World Order.

And shaved Priests in every parish!

Luberti, Deacon Lance, and I are hear armed to teeth with razors, prepared to shave every Orthodox beard we see!!! Hehe. You have found us out!

rwprof · « **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:49:43 PM »

Quote from: Papist on April 21, 2009, 04:37:40 PM

Quote from: mike on April 21, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: rwprof on April 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM
What you perceive is the Hidden Leadership of the Illuminati. It's long been obvious that this forum is really an organ for achieving the New World Order.

And shaved Priests in every parish!
Luberti, Deacon Lance, and I are hear armed to teeth with razors, prepared to shave every Orthodox beard we see!!! Hehe. You have found us out!

I've seen more than a few bearded Byzantines, friend.

AMM · « **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:57:52 PM »

Quote from: Papist on April 21, 2009, 04:36:40 PM

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 04:12:27 PM
I think Papist might be Roman Catholic. I'm not sure though. It's just a hunch.
Reallllllllly? What gave it away?

Just a shot in the dark.

As for this supposed "influence", I'm not seeing it.

Orthodox11 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:04:36 PM »

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 04:13:28 PM

Nah, I think he's a Copt. You know, the ones with the other Pope.

We have one of those too, don't forget

Rosehip · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:06:20 PM »

Can't say I've noticed this influence myself. Unless you count the times I've asked questions about RCism or something. Does that count? Surely it's okay to ask questions once in awhile...

AMM · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:33:06 PM »

I can't see what there would be wrong with asking questions.

I

http://www.newadvent.org/

Rosehip · « **Reply #21 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:36:15 PM »

Now, was that really necessary?

And, btw, for some reason I thought you, AMM, were Orthodox Christian, but now I see you are RC!

You learn something new every day...whew...

Heorhij · « **Reply #22 on:** April 21, 2009, 06:07:57 PM »

I never noticed any "strong Roman Catholic influence" on this forum. The two Roman Catholics who often post here, Luberti and Papist, and one Roman Catholic who is in the process of conversion to Orthodoxy, Carole, are very knowledgeable in their doctrine and nice, polite community members. They were never hostile to me because I'm Orthodox, and I never noticed them being aggressively anti-Orthodox. The same can be said about our now Orthodox brother Schulz when he was an Eastern Rite Catholic, and about Deacon Lance.

Jetavan · « **Reply #23 on:** April 21, 2009, 06:49:29 PM »

I'm a member of a Roman Catholic parish, but I doubt I've contributed to the aforementioned 'influence'.

Heorhij · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:15:51 PM »

Quote from: Jetavan on April 21, 2009, 06:49:29 PM

I'm a member of a Roman Catholic parish, but I doubt I've contributed to the aforementioned 'influence'.

Not to my knowledge. Actually, I have always thought that you were Orthodox.

truthstalker · « **Reply #25 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:23:39 PM »

What about me? Huh? Huh? Am I the ONLY Evangelical Presbyterian? Do I get to exert a strong Evangelical Presbysterian presence? Remember EP stands for Evangelical Presbyterian, not something else.

Am I right?

Right!

Jetavan · « **Reply #26 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:33:27 PM »

Quote from: Heorhij on April 21, 2009, 07:15:51 PM

Quote from: Jetavan on April 21, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
I'm a member of a Roman Catholic parish, but I doubt I've contributed to the aforementioned 'influence'.

Not to my knowledge. Actually, I have always thought that you were Orthodox.

Well, at least in America, one can be a member of a Catholic parish, without actually being Catholic. (In other words, I don't receive Communion in the parish.)

stashko · « **Reply #27 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:54:24 PM »

I noticed it for sure .. the new calendar believers here seem to be more ecumenically minded, and open to roman catholics and don't see a great gulf in difference.....

PoorFoolNicholas · « **Reply #28 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:56:48 PM »

Quote from: stashko on April 21, 2009, 07:54:24 PM

I noticed it for sure .. the new calendar believers here seem to be more ecumenically minded, and open to roman catholics and don't see a great gulf in difference.....

I have horns too stashko!!!

PoorFoolNicholas · « **Reply #29 on:** April 21, 2009, 07:58:56 PM »

And yes, I do understand the differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism. That is WHY I'm Orthodox and not a Catholic. Just throwing it out there.

Ebor · « **Reply #30 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:05:33 PM »

I haven't noticed any such RC influence and I've been here a long time.

(I'm tempted to ask if I'm falling down on the job with there being no "strong Anglican influence"

But I'll be good. )

Ebor

AMM · « **Reply #31 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:09:22 PM »

Quote from: Rosehip on April 21, 2009, 05:36:15 PM

And, btw, for some reason I thought you, AMM, were Orthodox Christian

I am, I think you have me confused with somebody else.

http://www.americancatholic.org/UpdateYourFaith/default.asp
http://www.vatican.va/
http://www.ecatholic2000.com/rcia/rcia.shtml

Veniamin · « **Reply #32 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:11:15 PM »

Quote from: stashko on April 21, 2009, 07:54:24 PM

I noticed it for sure .. the new calendar believers here seem to be more ecumenically minded, and open to roman catholics and don't see a great gulf in difference.....

Shenanigans. Just because we don't go out of our way to vent hatred for Catholics every chance we get doesn't mean we don't see a great gulf of difference. Maybe we just find it more productive to focus on our own repentance than to focus on telling Catholics they're going to hell.

AMM · « **Reply #33 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:21:32 PM »

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 08:11:15 PM

Maybe we just find it more productive to focus on our own repentance than to focus on telling Catholics they're going to hell.

I agree, there are more important things to focus on. Like letting people on the Revised Julian Calendar know they're headed for a hot place too.

http://credo.stormloader.com/endbyzan.htm

Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) · « **Reply #34 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:23:09 PM »

Quote from: stashko on April 21, 2009, 07:54:24 PM

I noticed it for sure .. the new calendar believers here seem to be more ecumenically minded, and open to roman catholics and don't see a great gulf in difference.....

I'm guilty in that I do not think that there is vast gulf between us and the Roman Catholics or other Christians. I believe that the gulf between the old and new calendarists is so minute that you can barely pass a human hair between them. At the same time, the gulf between us and the sects, whether or not they call themselves Christian, is indeed vast. Finally, I am ecumenically minded only in the sense that I can love and appreciate fellow Christians without agreeing with them or consenting to false unions.

PoorFoolNicholas · « **Reply #35 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:24:06 PM »

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 08:21:32 PM

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 08:11:15 PM
Maybe we just find it more productive to focus on our own repentance than to focus on telling Catholics they're going to hell.

I agree, there are more important things to focus on. Like letting people on the Revised Julian Calendar know they're headed for a hot place too.

http://credo.stormloader.com/endbyzan.htm

Ha, love it!

Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) · « **Reply #36 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:26:31 PM »

Quote from: AMM on April 21, 2009, 08:21:32 PM

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 08:11:15 PM
Maybe we just find it more productive to focus on our own repentance than to focus on telling Catholics they're going to hell.

I agree, there are more important things to focus on. Like letting people on the Revised Julian Calendar know they're headed for a hot place too.

http://credo.stormloader.com/endbyzan.htm

You sure like to stir the pot, don't you? A man after my heart but the referenced book is a bit too much. Funny, but over the top.

stashko · « **Reply #37 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:50:36 PM »

Quote from: Veniamin on April 21, 2009, 08:11:15 PM

Quote from: stashko on April 21, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
I noticed it for sure .. the new calendar believers here seem to be more ecumenically minded, and open to roman catholics and don't see a great gulf in difference.....

Shenanigans. Just because we don't go out of our way to vent hatred for Catholics every chance we get doesn't mean we don't see a great gulf of difference. Maybe we just find it more productive to focus on our own repentance than to focus on telling Catholics they're going to hell.

According to Holy Traditional Orthodoxy, once the separated from the arch of salvation the Holy Orthodox Catholic Church they lost it ,their Apostolic Succession, Their clergy and there Pope are just Lay people masquerading as clergy...

When has this changed among the Orthodox churches that the catholic church is a real church with real clergy and true apostolic succession....Was it When The Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras lifted the excommunication with the Pope of Rome,,
Thank God Almighty the Ecumenical Patriarch doesn't represent all the traditional orthodox Churches...

orthodoxlurker · « **Reply #38 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:54:00 PM »

Quote from: PeterTheAleut on April 21, 2009, 03:52:20 PM

Quote from: Douglas on April 21, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
... and quite frankly, I don't understand the strong Roman Catholic influence on this entire forum which I had thought was an Orthodox forum.
...

Me too, but I discovered it was my illusion, so I got over it.

I am not sure we have the same in mind, but I am not absolutely sure it's Roman Catholic influence, but a strong anti-Orthodox influence for sure.

If it is Roman Catholic, then I guess it is probably Jesuits. Malice against Orthodox voices here is quite strong, and they persistently try to strangle such voices.

ialmisry · « **Reply #39 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Schultz on April 21, 2009, 03:55:28 PM

Perhaps it's just the sheer presence of our resident Roman Catholics who are apparently allowed to actually post on here in violation of some obscure and very ancient Orthodox canon

Or perhaps it's the forum's general policy to discourage outright caricatures of Roman Catholic doctrine?

Why be confused by the facts? LOL.

How do you sharpen iron?

lubeltri · « **Reply #40 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »

Quote from: mike on April 21, 2009, 04:11:00 PM

I've noticed only two Catholic active members: Deacon Lance and Papist. I really appreciate their contribution to the forum.

I'm active too, just under Moderated status. Thus I do not post as much as I used to, though I still read daily.

lubeltri · « **Reply #41 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »

Quote from: rwprof on April 21, 2009, 04:20:28 PM

What you perceive is the Hidden Leadership of the Illuminati. It's long been obvious that this forum is really an organ for achieving the New World Order.

ROFL!

Incidentally, Ron Howard wrote an article this week insisting that we Catholics will like his movie!

lubeltri · « **Reply #42 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »

Quote from: Rosehip on April 21, 2009, 05:36:15 PM

Now, was that really necessary? And, btw, for some reason I thought you, AMM, were Orthodox Christian, but now I see you are RC! You learn something new every day...whew...

Not just RC, but uber-RC. If you notice, he's got a photo of Blessed Pius IX under his name.

lubeltri · « **Reply #43 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »

Quote from: Jetavan on April 21, 2009, 07:33:27 PM

Quote from: Heorhij on April 21, 2009, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Jetavan on April 21, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
I'm a member of a Roman Catholic parish, but I doubt I've contributed to the aforementioned 'influence'.

Not to my knowledge. Actually, I have always thought that you were Orthodox.

Well, at least in America, one can be a member of a Catholic parish, without actually being Catholic.

Yes, in America, we have plenty of those!

Rosehip · « **Reply #44 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:58:28 PM »

Quote from: lubeltri on April 21, 2009, 09:51:15 PM

Quote from: Rosehip on April 21, 2009, 05:36:15 PM
Now, was that really necessary? And, btw, for some reason I thought you, AMM, were Orthodox Christian, but now I see you are RC! You learn something new every day...whew...

Not just RC, but uber-RC. If you notice, he's got a photo of Blessed Pius IX under his name.

Then, if it is so, why does he tell me he is Orthodox Christian? $:-\$ I for some reason never noticed that avatar before, unless it is a new addition?

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