I would suggest that atleast considering the fairly constructive direction the thread had moved to, let us avoid raising these issues at what occurred at my parish or my cousins wedding . Believe me for every instance of IOC "persecution" you cite, I can raise 2 instances of Jacobite aggressiveness, violent attacks directed at priests, un-ethical use of influence money and muscle and so on.
As I said earlier, ugly incidents are symptomatic of differences that lie underneath. If the issues can be addressed then such ugliness will not occur.
Saying that 99.999% belong to my church and only .001% to the other does not sway me, the Parish was built for Orthodox worship as part of the Malankara church. Just because 99.999% have supposedly chosen to secede and follow their fad does not mean that the alleged .001% who wish to remain in the Malankara church forfeit their rights. Had they not filed cases, would you have allowed them to use the cemetery or the church. If no then what are you complaining about.
You say that the few of your parish members jumped to the MOSC side for self benefit. Bless you but I it made me smile. For the first time in my life, I have heard somebody claim that joining the MOSC can bring personal benefit (that too for laity). Usually it is always the other way around, you get to spend from your pocket for the privilege of being Orthodox
Or did you for a moment confuse the MOSC for the Malankara Catholic church .
Kandanad is a diocese of great repute in the MOSC, no less than 2 Diocesan Metropolitans of the Kandanad diocese have become Catholicoi. Somebody reading your post will get the impression that all that the MOSC has in Kandanad is some turn-coat parishioners trying to capture churches by filing suits.
Besides such claimed "99.99%" numbers can only even be claimed in the 2-3 dioceses the Jacobites predominate in. So is possible let us tone it down a bit. And don't even get me started on the "learn Orthodoxy" bit.
Suraj chetai, I honesty do not know where to begin with your post. But I'll try.
You ask me to avoid giving scenarios, but as this is a public forum where Orthodox Christians from across the globe commune, I think I have every right and its actually a responsibility to share the truth. These are not mere isolated incidents, but personal and first hand experience of what is happening in Malankara. Okay, as I have provided two incidences of persecution, I ask you to share two each ie) four cases where the Jacobite faithful have acted in aggressiveness. To the best of my knowledge, the Jacobite church has only taken a defensive stance in every situation of conflict. Every court case was filed by IOC and the Jacobite faithful (generally the majority in that parish) were forced to file a counter case to protect their interests. Like I shared in my analogy, why should we give up something our forefathers built?
Case in point, Puthupally Pally (St. George Orthodox Church Puthuppally). It is a very prominent church and a pilgrim centre, also one of my favourite churches in Kerala. There is a large minority of Jacobites living in that area whose families were members of the parish long before the schism. Now if those families wished, they could of taken the stance normally done by IOC and filed case after case saying they have a right to use that church. If that happened, then there would be sharing of services similar to what I described happens in my home parish. But the Jacobite members did the noble thing, and built their own parish St.George Syrian Orthodox Church (Puthupally Patriarchal Church) Why doesn't IOC do the same when in comes to Piravom, Manarcadu, or Kolencherry, all of which are majority Jacobite parishes? The reason is that these churches are some of the richest in Kerala in terms of annual donations from the thousands of pilgrims who visit. As controlling these parishes is quite lucrative, IOC files cases there to take possession.
Yes those churches were built for Orthodox worship in Malankara. They were built by our forefathers, who were steadfastly loyal to the Malankara Church which is and always shall be an integral part of the Holy Syriac Orthodox Church and their generation, and all generation following them will remain loyal to the Throne of Antioch and the Successor of St. Peter HH the Patriarch. It is quite an insult to say that we are following some radical fad, or new ideology. The Church in Malankara has and shall be a part of the Mother Church. We are the Malanakara church, we did not secede from anything or anyone. We are continuing in the footsteps of Saints like Parumala Thirumeni who until his last breath remained loyal to Antioch. This is what I absolutely hate about the IOC narrative of church history. Its as if we became part of the Syriac Church only 50 years ago. Their narrative wipes out centuries of history, and countless saints who gave their life for Malankara and the Throne of Antioch.
I am glad I made you smile
If this is the first time you heard that, then you need to get out more often, or atleast speak to people in Kerala. Luckily for all those who do jump ship and go to MOSC, the diocese pays all the legal fees, will arrange the bus full of thugs and anything else required. Its poor Jacobites who really pay out of pocket. No, I did not confuse MOSC for Malankara Catholic Church. But its only because of this schism created by MOSC that the Malanakara Catholic Church exists. Everyone knows that during the early days of the schism, a high level delegation sent letters to to the Roman Catholic Church asking to take them in. Mar Ivanios played a key role, but it was the MOSC synod as a whole who considered and even had communication with the Catholics. When the case came to MOSC favour, they abandoned the idea, but Mar Ivanios, feeling sidelined by the rest of the synod for not getting a better position, decided to continue talks with the Catholics, under the guise of "reunion." The rest they say is history...
I would like to conclude my post by saying this. Is unity ideal? Yes, and I wish that could happen. How beautiful would it to be to have a single united Orthodox Church in Malankara. Sadly, I don't see it happening any time soon. So lets look at peace. I want true peace in Malankara. But who defines peace? What is peace to a Jacobite, isn't the same as it is to someone in MOSC. The Jacobite Church has every right to exist, and we have every right to continue in the way of our forefathers who toiled for the church. If the Jacobite church must give up its relations with SOC, to be absorbed and amalgamated into MOSC for peace to occur, then I will loudly object to that so called "peace."