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Offline ms.hoorah

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please pray for my son
« on: April 04, 2009, 05:36:38 PM »
Please pray for my 18 year old son.  He states that upon going to college, he will never go to Divine Liturgy/Holy Communion again.  He actively participated in the Church since his Baptism/Chrismation.


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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 06:20:14 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

Ms. Hoorah, I feel for you. My 24-year old daughter, a cradle Orthodox, is a very staunch, militant atheist, and God knows how much I want her to return to the Church. But we can only do so much, may the Lord help us all...
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 06:34:34 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

I believe I once said something like this when I was at college.  6 years or so later, I was back in the pews, so to speak. 
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 06:35:58 PM »
Lord, have mercy!
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 06:53:08 PM »
Lord, have mercy!  ms. hoorah, when I was his age, I too, left the church (Assemblies of God back then) for Islam for almost 10 years, then atheism.  Now, as Schultz said, I try to darken the steps to my parish as often as I can.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 07:11:18 PM »
Lord, have mercy! May all Thy prodigal children make their returns!
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 07:52:11 PM »
Lord have mercy on the work of Your Hands, protected by Holy Baptism.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 06:36:23 AM »
Lord have Mercy!..........Amen
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 01:26:20 PM »
May your son find his way back to God. Lord, have mercy!


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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 02:01:14 PM »
Lord, have mercy.

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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 06:53:18 PM »
Lord, have mercy.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 08:07:59 PM »
Lord, have mercy.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 10:37:42 PM »
Kyrie Eleison. 

Does he say why he doesn't want to go to Divine Liturgy/communion ever again? 

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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 11:24:25 PM »
Lord have mercy!

Was this out of the blue?
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2009, 11:28:05 PM »
Lord, have mercy! Dear Savior, please sustain and strengthen the faith of Your servant.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2009, 12:06:15 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2009, 12:26:11 AM »
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 08:51:10 AM »
Kyrie Eleison. 

Does he say why he doesn't want to go to Divine Liturgy/communion ever again?  

                 He states, "Church is worthless."  I point out to him all the wonderful gifts that God has
                 provided for him, the necessity of thanking God,  our NEED for God in our sinful lives and all society.  He,
                 in all of his infinite, 18 year old wisdom, has decided to attempt to "scientifically" evaluate  whether
                 God exists.  Where did all of the spiritual education from his parents', Godparents', priests, Sunday school, and church
                 go?  I don't want to physically prove God exists.  I  do not know if that is even possible or desired.??
                 Both my priest (a wonderful, helpful, caring person) and my adopted Godmother (very spiritually wise) state that my son
                 may need to "briefly reject his family's religious beliefs to then be able to make accept Orthodoxy as his beliefs. 
              
                 He is going to Penn State (Univ. Park) in August. I am going to contact the priest and visit the church (hopefully with my son) this summer.
                 Thank you for your prayers.

{Edit - fixed your quote tags - Cleveland, GM}
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 10:30:04 AM »
Kyrie Eleison. 

Does he say why he doesn't want to go to Divine Liturgy/communion ever again?  

                 He states, "Church is worthless."  I point out to him all the wonderful gifts that God has
                 provided for him, the necessity of thanking God,  our NEED for God in our sinful lives and all society.  He,
                 in all of his infinite, 18 year old wisdom, has decided to attempt to "scientifically" evaluate  whether
                 God exists.  Where did all of the spiritual education from his parents', Godparents', priests, Sunday school, and church
                 go?  I don't want to physically prove God exists.  I  do not know if that is even possible or desired.??
                 Both my priest (a wonderful, helpful, caring person) and my adopted Godmother (very spiritually wise) state that my son
                 may need to "briefly reject his family's religious beliefs to then be able to make accept Orthodoxy as his beliefs. 
              
                 He is going to Penn State (Univ. Park) in August. I am going to contact the priest and visit the church (hopefully with my son) this summer.
                 Thank you for your prayers.

{Edit - fixed your quote tags - Cleveland, GM}

Ms. Hoorah, this is so like my daughter and son-in-law. They are a bit older than your son, she 24 1/2 and he 28, and yet they still remain in this acutely negative "all religion is stupid and all this 'god-talk' is worthless" phase. They are wonderful kids, with great drive for work, family, generally everything positive and productive; and they both have very strict moral codes, and they both are very kind and compassionate. Yet, whatever "religilous" (B. Maher) they hear about, they reject it flatly. They are extremely entrenched in the opinion that nothing exists beyond physical, natural, empirically knowable, "scientifically testable."

I have no idea why so many people are like this, and why I am not... but I'll pray for them and for you.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 10:56:21 AM »
Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us all!

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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2009, 06:08:10 PM »
Lord have mercy and protect your servant as he seeks his path. O Theotokos, intercede for this young man that he may rediscover his faith.
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2009, 11:38:46 PM »
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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2009, 12:47:45 AM »
Lord, have mercy!

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Re: please pray for my son
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2009, 11:53:52 AM »
Kyrie Eleison. 

Does he say why he doesn't want to go to Divine Liturgy/communion ever again?  

                 He states, "Church is worthless."  I point out to him all the wonderful gifts that God has
                 provided for him, the necessity of thanking God,  our NEED for God in our sinful lives and all society.  He,
                 in all of his infinite, 18 year old wisdom, has decided to attempt to "scientifically" evaluate  whether
                 God exists.  Where did all of the spiritual education from his parents', Godparents', priests, Sunday school, and church
                 go?  I don't want to physically prove God exists.  I  do not know if that is even possible or desired.??
                 Both my priest (a wonderful, helpful, caring person) and my adopted Godmother (very spiritually wise) state that my son
                 may need to "briefly reject his family's religious beliefs to then be able to make accept Orthodoxy as his beliefs. 
              
                 He is going to Penn State (Univ. Park) in August. I am going to contact the priest and visit the church (hopefully with my son) this summer.
                 Thank you for your prayers.

{Edit - fixed your quote tags - Cleveland, GM}
I don't know if this is any help to you or not but I found Aquinas' arguements (not the caricatures fo his arguements) for the existence of God to be very helpful. I would suggest the arguement he presents in his Summa Contra Gentiles to be the best as it is the most detailed and well defended version.
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