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http://www.culte.ro/DocumenteHtml.aspx?id=1725The Serbian Orthodox Church in Romania is an official cult recognized by the government of Romania. It is lead by a bishop appointed by the Serbian Orthodox Church. I can tell you that most of the people who come to, at least Bezdin and Birda monasteries, are Romanian Orthodox who don't have any problems with the Serbs having churches in Romania. As a side note, at Birda monastery, they have a piece of Saint George's skull and a chain of Saint Peter. Just a side note, don't say official cult in American circles. Cult has a bad connotation with it. "Reconized religion" is what you mean. |
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 10:22:11 PM » |
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Just a side note, don't say official cult in American circles. What American Circles? Is OCnet an American circle? |
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 10:25:09 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 10:27:20 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 10:32:03 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 10:33:12 PM » |
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Typical American...always has to buck the trend...
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2009, 10:36:52 PM » |
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LOL!  One of the great blessings of OCnet is that it brings together people from around the world. |
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As American as the AC current (invented by a Serb) that carries the electricity to the Computers (many of which have foreign parts or manufacturers).
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 11:04:49 PM » |
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LOL! One of the great blessings of OCnet is that it brings together people from around the world. So that we can make them into Americans abroad! |
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Al Gore invented the Internet.
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I'm better than American! I'm indigenous! |
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2009, 11:27:06 PM » |
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Al Gore invented the Internet.
Actually, the Internet is a French invention. Therefore OCnet must be French! Here's a video of a brief history of the Internet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIQjrMHTv4 |
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
If it were French, it would have already surrendered to the nearest German invention. ROFL! Havn't heard that one in a while. It's actually not funny here in Australia. I lived in Vienna Austria for a brief stint, so it has a special meaning for me. Sorry if I offended in any way. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 11:54:58 PM » |
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^ Not offended. Just pointing out that ethnocentric humour does not carry very well on the Internet.  (And note how I spelled "humour"....I guess that doesn't carry well either.  ) |
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Al Gore invented the Internet.
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I still think we're all Geek Orthodox On OCnet.
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Since the millitary hooked it all up, are we all militarists?  On serious note: I'm better than American! I'm indigenous! Do you know, is there much use by the various Nations here of the internet? I mean, in their languages? Last August I fulfilled a life long dream and visited the Hopi Nation, but was disappointed that their language is almost gone. I talked with a woman who said that when she was young (she wasn't yet even middle aged) the children still spoke Hopi but now they weren't. They don't have radio station like the Navajo (when we got there in NM I searched and found their station. Didn't understand a word of course, except when they had English segments, but thought it was important to hear). One thing I fear is the internet excellerating the rush to English. Which, now that I see that I "was the originator" of this thread: LOL! One of the great blessings of OCnet is that it brings together people from around the world. Indeed, and in that vein, I warned: http://www.culte.ro/DocumenteHtml.aspx?id=1725The Serbian Orthodox Church in Romania is an official cult recognized by the government of Romania. It is lead by a bishop appointed by the Serbian Orthodox Church. I can tell you that most of the people who come to, at least Bezdin and Birda monasteries, are Romanian Orthodox who don't have any problems with the Serbs having churches in Romania. As a side note, at Birda monastery, they have a piece of Saint George's skull and a chain of Saint Peter. Just a side note, don't say official cult in American circles. Cult has a bad connotation with it. "Reconized religion" is what you mean. I'm used to Romanians' turns of phrase which don't come out the way they mean, hence if ma were to tell an American (and there are plenty of them running about in Romania now, especially in the religious sphere) that the Serbian Orthodox were an official cult, they might get a suprised look, or if they American Baptists/Pentacostals (called pocaiti "repenters" in Romanian), agreement. The only thing American about me is my passport. |
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
If it were French, it would have already surrendered to the nearest German invention. Nice. The U.S. and France are very much siblings, and we treat each other that way. I see it more as good-natured ribbing than insults. But back to the subject at hand: The French Internet can be accessed using the German Nokia phone, so it's already surrendered. |
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Al Gore invented the Internet.
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
If it were French, it would have already surrendered to the nearest German invention. Nice. The U.S. and France are very much siblings, and we treat each other that way. I see it more as good-natured ribbing than insults. But back to the subject at hand: The French Internet can be accessed using the German Nokia phone, so it's already surrendered. Nokia is Finnish. |
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
If it were French, it would have already surrendered to the nearest German invention. Nice. The U.S. and France are very much siblings, and we treat each other that way. I see it more as good-natured ribbing than insults. But back to the subject at hand: The French Internet can be accessed using the German Nokia phone, so it's already surrendered. Nokia is Finnish. Is it? Wow, the French surrendered to the Finns. |
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Therefore OCnet must be French!
If it were French, it would have already surrendered to the nearest German invention. Nice. The U.S. and France are very much siblings, and we treat each other that way. I see it more as good-natured ribbing than insults. But back to the subject at hand: The French Internet can be accessed using the German Nokia phone, so it's already surrendered. Nokia is Finnish. Is it? Wow, the French surrendered to the Finns. Yep. It's common knowledge. |
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On serious note: I'm better than American! I'm indigenous! Do you know, is there much use by the various Nations here of the internet? I mean, in their languages? Last August I fulfilled a life long dream and visited the Hopi Nation, but was disappointed that their language is almost gone. I talked with a woman who said that when she was young (she wasn't yet even middle aged) the children still spoke Hopi but now they weren't. They don't have radio station like the Navajo (when we got there in NM I searched and found their station. Didn't understand a word of course, except when they had English segments, but thought it was important to hear). One thing I fear is the internet excellerating the rush to English. Which, now that I see that I "was the originator" of this thread: There is no specific program for my dialect of Salish which is an coastal dialect. But there is a program for the puget sound dialect called Lushootseed. I have been learning bits and pieces here and there. They teach it on the reservation at the schools. Vi Hilbert really led the effort to reintroduce Lushootseed. For awhile she taught it at the UW. I had the honor of interviewing her and recording her speak Lushootseed about 9 years ago. If I lived on the reservation there would be more available to me in terms of language. The real threat to native language is that fact that rez's are black holes. |
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I'm an American, but so is everyone else on both continents. I suppose that I'm not ethnically anything. My surname is anglicized from the French original, but as war as I know I have French, English, Irish, and many others I have forgotten. I kind of hate the lack of connection to my past. My Christianity is my only real heritage, and Orthodoxy is completing that for me!
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American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God! Isn't that Southern by the Grace of God, American courtesy of Sherman? Filled with satanic machinations, he was an evil, vile and wicked murderer of men, women and children! Every breath this man took and every act he carried out was to advance the cause of unleashing Hell upon the world. |
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American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God! Isn't that Southern by the Grace of God, American courtesy of Sherman? You mean the monster who ravaged the Confederate States of AMERICA?? You guys started it. Don't start nothin'. Ain't gonna be nothin'.  |
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So I repeat the question. Is the collective "we" who constitute OCnet American?
I would say absolutely. We bring our american mannerisms, mindset, "demand for rights" etc. into the board in an overarching manner. When people such as yourself bring up certain "international niceties" it comes as a shock to people, or people don't know exactly how to deal with it. On the other hand, I would also say that the majority of the people here have been enculturated with some kind of OTHER culture as well, and so are much more open thinking than most "normal americans". But it's hard to deny that we don't act, think and post in an "american" fashion. |
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So I repeat the question. Is the collective "we" who constitute OCnet American? The majority "we", yes, probably, but not exclusively. But then you must define OC.net...total membership, active members only, or something else. Defining the collective, huh... Mr. 4 of 7. OC.net is American if you go by server location or dominant language (EN:US). |
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So I repeat the question. Is the collective "we" who constitute OCnet American? The majority "we", yes, probably, but not exclusively. But then you must define OC.net...total membership, active members only, or something else. Defining the collective, huh... Mr. 4 of 7. OC.net is American if you go by server location or dominant language (EN:US). Meaning many here are just in the OC.net diaspora |
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"Religion is a neurobiological illness and Orthodoxy is its cure." - Fr. John S. Romanides
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ozgeorge
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Is OCnet a "we" or an "it"?
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If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.
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