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Services in which Churches have you ever attented?

Church of Constantinople
24 (15.6%)
Church of Alexandria
2 (1.3%)
Church of Antioch
23 (14.9%)
Church of Jeruzalem
5 (3.2%)
Church of Moscow
19 (12.3%)
Church of Georgia
1 (0.6%)
Church of Serbia
14 (9.1%)
Church of Romania
15 (9.7%)
Church of Bulgaria
5 (3.2%)
Church of Cyprus
2 (1.3%)
Church of Greece
12 (7.8%)
Church of Poland
2 (1.3%)
Church of Albania
3 (1.9%)
Church of Czech Lands and Slovakia
1 (0.6%)
Orthodox Church in America
26 (16.9%)

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Offline mike

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Question for pilgrims!
« on: March 18, 2009, 06:26:19 PM »
Question is simple :) If it were a sub-jurisdiction or any autonomous/self-ruled Churches please mark the Church, where did it belong. Please also write some impressions about something unordinary for you.

In Bulgaria, for example, it was very strange for me that Holy Communion is given right before the end of the Liturgy (after post-Communion prayers) and is given separately.

During Vespers in the St. George Cathedral in Constantinople it was rather surprising that apart from me and my family members there were only two security guards, two cantors and one Priest.
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 06:53:53 PM »
What does the Australian Archdiocese come under?
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 06:58:23 PM »
Ecumenical Patriarchate as almost every "Greek" Church structure outside of Greece, I suppose.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 11:57:39 PM »
Eh, when I was in Constantinople at St. George there were 30 people besides our group for Saturday Vespers.

In Greece I was touched by the quaint village custom: people didn't know when Church would start, but when the bell would ring they knew they had 10 minutes.  Of course, in Athens I was shocked at how few went to Church.

I've always been impressed with (although I don't find it aesthetically pleasing for worship) Romanian church music.  Vespers for the 100th anniversary of St. Mary's in Cleveland (oldest Romanian parish in the US) was great.
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 02:01:18 AM »
Eh, when I was in Constantinople at St. George there were 30 people besides our group for Saturday Vespers.

In Greece I was touched by the quaint village custom: people didn't know when Church would start, but when the bell would ring they knew they had 10 minutes.  Of course, in Athens I was shocked at how few went to Church.

I've always been impressed with (although I don't find it aesthetically pleasing for worship) Romanian church music.  Vespers for the 100th anniversary of St. Mary's in Cleveland (oldest Romanian parish in the US) was great.

What do you not find aesthetically pleasing?  Maybe it is only PART of their tradition that you don't like.  ISTM that many do not realize that both Serbia and Romania do a combination of "Slavic" (e.g. more western/choral-like) and Byzantine chant.  I'm not sure how it breaks out (geographically speaking - maybe there isn't one), but Romania is roughly northern half - Slavic-style, southern half - Byz chant.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 05:58:40 AM »
The Romanian church here in London uses Byzantine chant only. During the Pan-Orthodox Vespers, where the Greeks tend to be no-shows, it is usually the cantors from the Romanian church that will sing the Byzantine hymns in Greek.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 08:16:10 AM »
Eh, when I was in Constantinople at St. George there were 30 people besides our group for Saturday Vespers.

In Greece I was touched by the quaint village custom: people didn't know when Church would start, but when the bell would ring they knew they had 10 minutes.  Of course, in Athens I was shocked at how few went to Church.

I've always been impressed with (although I don't find it aesthetically pleasing for worship) Romanian church music.  Vespers for the 100th anniversary of St. Mary's in Cleveland (oldest Romanian parish in the US) was great.

What do you not find aesthetically pleasing?  Maybe it is only PART of their tradition that you don't like.  ISTM that many do not realize that both Serbia and Romania do a combination of "Slavic" (e.g. more western/choral-like) and Byzantine chant.  I'm not sure how it breaks out (geographically speaking - maybe there isn't one), but Romania is roughly northern half - Slavic-style, southern half - Byz chant. 

Oh, I find the music beautiful - I just don't like it in a worship setting.  I don't have an objection on any ground other than I don't like multi-part harmonized music in worship.  It's beautiful music, though, and I do appreciate that.
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 02:01:15 PM »
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 07:22:05 PM »
Not EO, but I will be attending an Armenian Church on the 16th.
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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 12:07:05 AM »
I have been to Greek Archdiocese churches, but didnt put down Church of Greece, because I think the GOA is under the EP , ie Church of Constantinople.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 02:20:51 AM »
In Bulgaria, for example, it was very strange for me that Holy Communion is given right before the end of the Liturgy (after post-Communion prayers) and is given separately.

Interesting... If not too personal, where was that?

I know in some churches they give the Holy Communion at the end, in some at the proper time. Personally, in most churches I have been, they give it after "with fear of God, faith, and love...".

But I have never seen distribution of the Body and Blood separately. In Bulgaria, in several places only, the Liturgy of St. James is served once or twice a year, in which the Holy Communion is given separately, but I have never attended such.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 03:22:38 AM »
Interesting... If not too personal, where was that?

Cathedral in Varna.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2010, 04:51:40 AM »
Checked The Albainian box,attended one here in chicago venerated the weeping icona of the Theotokos ,not in albainia though...
Ukrainia seems to be missing.... ???
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 05:38:12 PM »
Checked The Albainian box,attended one here in chicago venerated the weeping icona of the Theotokos ,not in albainia though...
Ukrainia seems to be missing.... ???

If you were in a canonical Ukrainian church, it was in the USA under the Church of Constantinople, like the GOA is.

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Re: Question for pilgrims!
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 09:59:55 AM »
I normally attend an OCA Church 2-3 times a week (thank God for my mom, who is the BEST taxi to Church in the world!)

when I went to a Greek Church, I LOVED the Greek language in the liturgy.  I also loved the byzantine chant (we have some at my OCA Church, but as we were a Serbian/Russian Church before the OCA, we still have many Slavic traditions)