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Forgiveness
« on: March 05, 2009, 03:16:32 AM »
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[I did see message 108 which simply states that the same thing was posted two years ago on CAF with no references for its source. It is nothing to do with "sin", it is about proper debate and academic discourse.

Please forgive me, brother,  I confess that I have brought nothing but improper debates and no academic worth to this Forum.  I am grateful that people even tolerate me and interact with me.  For the sake of Christ, forgive. 
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 03:17:57 AM »
Please forgive me, brother,  I confess that I have brought nothing but improper debates and no academic worth to this Forum.  I am grateful that people even tolerate me and interact with me.  For the sake of Christ, forgive. 
Are you being genuine here?
If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 03:35:01 AM »
Please forgive me, brother,  I confess that I have brought nothing but improper debates and no academic worth to this Forum.  I am grateful that people even tolerate me and interact with me.  For the sake of Christ, forgive. 
Are you being genuine here?

I have done so many prostrations in front of people this week that I am glad that here on the forum I can forego the physical part and just make a cyber prostration. 

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 03:37:08 AM »
Are you being genuine here?

If I were Fr Ambrose, I would not dignify this gratuitous and shameful comment by replying to it.  >:(

Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 03:38:04 AM »
I have done so many prostrations in front of people this week that I am glad that here on the forum I can forego the physical part and just make a cyber prostration. 

Father, did we need to know that?  Seriously?  Sounds like boasting....

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 03:53:18 AM »
Can I ask what any of this has to do with proper referencing? Or the Pope?
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 03:58:23 AM »
Can I ask what any of this has to do with proper referencing? Or the Pope?

There! I've split it off.
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 04:34:06 AM »
I have done so many prostrations in front of people this week that I am glad that here on the forum I can forego the physical part and just make a cyber prostration. 

Father, did we need to know that?  Seriously?  Sounds like boasting....

Doesn't seem like a boast to me given that Forgiveness Vespers were just a couple days ago. My 5 month pregnant body is still aching from the Vespers I attended at my small parish. Even a partial prostration with a baby in the belly and a almost 2 year old on the back wears on this 30 year old body.
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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 04:49:35 AM »
I have done so many prostrations in front of people this week that I am glad that here on the forum I can forego the physical part and just make a cyber prostration. 

Father, did we need to know that?  Seriously?  Sounds like boasting....

When I was younger I could boast.  Dozens of full prostrations before each member of the parish.  Ah, those were the days of youth and vigour!

These days I creak and groan and run out of breath after just a few.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 05:27:41 AM »
Can I ask what any of this has to do with proper referencing? Or the Pope?

George, I am seriously honoured that a thread has been created to discuss my prostrations.    ;D

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 12:08:44 PM »
I've always felt that talking about prostrations is something that was kept to oneself in light of the Parable of the Publican and the Pharisee.

Now, having been to Churches where people prostrate, I have no issue with people prostrating openly.  No one prostrates at my Church due to pews and the best that people do is kneel.

Talking about prostrations is a different ballgame.

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Re: Forgiveness
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 09:25:48 AM »
I've always felt that talking about prostrations is something that was kept to oneself in light of the Parable of the Publican and the Pharisee.

Now, having been to Churches where people prostrate, I have no issue with people prostrating openly.  No one prostrates at my Church due to pews and the best that people do is kneel.

Talking about prostrations is a different ballgame.

Forgive me if I have offended anyone, Amen!

Well, in my parish, which is Russian Orthodox, there is quite a lot of talking about the prostrations which happen at the Forgiveness Sunday Vespers.  People do a prostration before each person in the church, asking forgiveness.  If that is 50 people or 100 people that amounts to 50 or 100 prostrations.  That is a big physical effort and people certainly do talk about it afterwards.   Us oldies generally look rueful and say how we can't manage them all these days.  We have got too creaky.

Now if you find it obnoxious to talk about prostrations, don't get me started by talking about having pews in your church which obviously prevent the faithful doing traditional prostrations....  ::) :o ::)