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I was looking at the different canons in my Horologion. The melodies for the stichera and kontakia are indicated with the names of different prosomia (e.g. "Second Tone. O House of Ephratha"). But where can I find the melodies for the different Odes? They all have names like "The charioteer of Pharaoh" and "The Chaldee tyrant"  |
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 09:47:28 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 09:58:29 PM » |
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Bless Father, I already own this recording. It has the prosomia used for the kontakia, stichera, dismissal hymns, etc. However, it doesn't have the melodies for the odes (There is no track entitled "The Chaldee tyrant," for example), unless I've missed something. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 10:05:27 PM » |
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Bless Father, I already own this recording. It has the prosomia used for the kontakia, stichera, dismissal hymns, etc. However, it doesn't have the melodies for the odes (There is no track entitled "The Chaldee tyrant," for example), unless I've missed something. God bless you. Sorry, I didn't read your post close enough. Can you read Greek well enough to learn the melody from Greek and then apply it to the English text? |
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 10:17:07 PM » |
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Can you read Greek well enough to learn the melody from Greek and then apply it to the English text?
I suppose I could. Are there Greek recordings available online? |
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 10:21:37 PM » |
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Bless Father, I already own this recording. It has the prosomia used for the kontakia, stichera, dismissal hymns, etc. However, it doesn't have the melodies for the odes (There is no track entitled "The Chaldee tyrant," for example), unless I've missed something. The model melodies for Canons (i.e. the Odes) would be found in an "Irmologion" (an Irmos is the model melody for an Ode of a Canon, just as an "Original Melody" or a "Automelon" is a model melody for a "Prosomion" - like the Kathismata, Praises/Ainoi, Vespers Hymns/Kekragaria & Aposticha). |
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 10:34:04 PM » |
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The model melodies for Canons (i.e. the Odes) would be found in an "Irmologion"
Thanks! I couldn't find one on the Apostoliki Diakonia site. I'll ask someone at church where I can get hold of one. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 11:04:08 PM » |
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http://www.analogion.org/eirmologion-prosomoia.htmNot exhaustive, but a good place to start. Also, many times in Greek Churches they will just read the canons plain and only chant the katavasia together with the melody. The "More Honorable Than the Cherubim" is then sung in the same tone and it is rather nice 
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 11:12:47 PM » |
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Thank you Father, I think I'll be using this site a lot  |
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 08:21:53 PM » |
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Thank you Father, I think I'll be using this site a lot It is an excellent site, especially for variety of exposure (not featuring the music of, say, one or two cantors exclusively, but providing a wide range of styles and schools). |
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 12:14:47 AM » |
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Orthodox11, thanks for starting this thread.
Is there a site which has a list of all the irmoi in Greek, and then (say, Holy Transfiguration Monastery's) translation of the original title? I ask because I'm trying to get a conceptual handle on all of them, I don't read much Greek, and it's maddening to work with even two different translations.
Thanks!
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with my tears the handwriting of my many sins
And for the rest of my life to please Thee
through sincere repentance
Yet doth the enemy lead me astray as he wareth
against my sould with his cunning
O Lord before I utterly perish do Thou save me!
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