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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2295 on: September 09, 2018, 05:45:56 PM »
^^ interesting!


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2296 on: September 09, 2018, 05:57:21 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2297 on: September 09, 2018, 05:58:53 PM »
^^ interesting!




Strange, but I like it.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2298 on: September 09, 2018, 06:11:20 PM »
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Yeah, not too dissimilar. I do like the little detail of the half-completed Hospitality of Abraham in the background (though that also somehow seems like something Lentz would do).
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2299 on: September 09, 2018, 06:13:02 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2300 on: September 09, 2018, 06:25:29 PM »
^^ interesting!




Strange, but I like it.

+1, anybody know its provenance?


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The icon is kind of weird as Christ is a child and she embraces the crucifix.

 
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2301 on: September 09, 2018, 06:52:13 PM »
The icon is kind of weird as Christ is a child and she embraces the crucifix.

Yeah, that's what I mean by posting this icon there.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2302 on: September 09, 2018, 06:57:29 PM »
This is a type of Theotokos Akhtirskaya, where she is contemplating crucified Christ. This is from Roman Catholic art and leaked into the Orthodox world during latinization, think Seven Arrows icon.

The icon is kind of weird as Christ is a child and she embraces the crucifix.

Thanks. Though I don't think it's any weirder than Jesus with a grape vine coming out of His side, or Jesus in a cup about to be drank or Jesus sitting in an ahistorical stone coffin while the Theotokos hugs Him. I mean, He isn't supposed to be quite a child in these sorts of depictions, but more of some kind of an adult-child, isn't He?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2303 on: September 09, 2018, 07:05:57 PM »
This is a type of Theotokos Akhtirskaya, where she is contemplating crucified Christ. This is from Roman Catholic art and leaked into the Orthodox world during latinization, think Seven Arrows icon.

The icon is kind of weird as Christ is a child and she embraces the crucifix.

Thanks. Though I don't think it's any weirder than Jesus with a grape vine coming out of His side, or Jesus in a cup about to be drank or Jesus sitting in an ahistorical stone coffin while the Theotokos hugs Him. I mean, He isn't supposed to be quite a child in these sorts of depictions, but more of some kind of an adult-child, isn't He?

In reality the story is a bit different a man was farming when he saw the icon on the floor glowing with light so he picked it up and it was declared a icon not made by hands by the church !
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2304 on: September 09, 2018, 07:08:46 PM »
The icon is kind of weird as Christ is a child and she embraces the crucifix.

Yeah, that's what I mean by posting this icon there.

Haha  ;)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2305 on: September 10, 2018, 12:39:27 PM »
Not really strange, as such, but in a strange place: someone's bedroom in the video game Kingdom Come.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2306 on: September 10, 2018, 12:50:09 PM »
Having icons in your bedroom is strange? That'd be about the only place in this house that I could put them.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2307 on: September 10, 2018, 12:57:35 PM »
It's pretty common to have icons in the bedroom.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2308 on: September 10, 2018, 12:58:45 PM »
Not really strange, as such, but in a strange place: someone's bedroom in the video game Kingdom Come.

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Oh wait, or do you mean "strange that it's in a video game?"
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2309 on: September 10, 2018, 01:27:31 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2310 on: September 10, 2018, 01:30:59 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2312 on: September 13, 2018, 09:04:51 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2313 on: September 13, 2018, 09:59:35 PM »
this is made by an orthodox layperson and is an icon but uses a more casual art style and they got the halo wrong and wrote W O N when it should be O W N


There's an error in the halo, but it's not the order of the letters. Icons which follow Greek tradition are more likely to have the order as W O N (omega at the top), icons painted in Slavic tradition mainly have the letters as O W N (omega on the left).

The error in the halo is in the lines which make up a cross around Christ's head. There should be one single line and a double line making up the cross, nine lines altogether. The number represents the nine ranks of angels and bodiless powers who serve Him.

Is there a specific canonical orientation for the double lines?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2314 on: September 13, 2018, 10:13:49 PM »
St Andre Rublev.



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https://www.trinitystores.com/artist/br-robert-lentz-ofm

This Rublev painting was done by one of Lentz's students.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2315 on: September 13, 2018, 10:25:01 PM »
St Andre Rublev.



Has the dead eyes of Lentz's work.

Who exactly is Lentz?
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Wow. I'm surprised he hasn't received more attention from the archbishop of Baltimore.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2316 on: September 13, 2018, 10:27:12 PM »
this is made by an orthodox layperson and is an icon but uses a more casual art style and they got the halo wrong and wrote W O N when it should be O W N


There's an error in the halo, but it's not the order of the letters. Icons which follow Greek tradition are more likely to have the order as W O N (omega at the top), icons painted in Slavic tradition mainly have the letters as O W N (omega on the left).

The error in the halo is in the lines which make up a cross around Christ's head. There should be one single line and a double line making up the cross, nine lines altogether. The number represents the nine ranks of angels and bodiless powers who serve Him.

Is there a specific canonical orientation for the double lines?

Seeing as three of the world's most famous icons do not follow this rule, I'm guessing no such specific canon exists.





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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2317 on: September 14, 2018, 08:48:56 AM »
Maybe not so strange, jut a bit unusual.






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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2318 on: September 14, 2018, 11:29:53 AM »
Maybe not so strange, jut a bit unusual.








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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2319 on: September 14, 2018, 12:31:35 PM »
Especially for Holy Cross Day!
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2320 on: September 14, 2018, 02:12:01 PM »
Maybe not so strange, jut a bit unusual.








The middle one is of the Procession of the Cross on August 1st.
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