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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #990 on: April 18, 2015, 07:55:59 AM »


At least they didn't use the NT Trinity, right?

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #991 on: April 18, 2015, 10:10:31 PM »


Here is another one, saint Mark of Ephesus trampling the pope of Rome, with saint Justin Popovich (right) and saint bishop Nikolai Velimirovich (left) and Lord Jesus Christ above all.

It still doesn't make such imagery right or suitable for veneration. Iconography should never be corrupted by polemics or anger. The saying written between Sts Justin and Nikolai should not be there, either.

I think in days of dirty ecumenism business, we need few icons like this. It is reminder, not polemics or anger.

I would note that there is a relativity lucrative and large business of selling and making "unofficial" and "un-Orthodox" icons in the former Yugoslavia. I have personally been in small apartments stacked to the ceilings with these "homemade" icons: such "icons" cannot be considered the same as the Holy Icons of the Holy Church made by her monks and nuns in the monasteries. In addition, it was a practice of the communist regime and its supporters to make "icons" of such non-Orthodox people but to uphold those secular defenders of the Party and so forth (I have one such "icon" myself -- given to me as a gift).

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #992 on: April 18, 2015, 10:12:11 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I viewed this icon hanging in a Monastery I visited.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #993 on: April 18, 2015, 10:18:21 PM »
If I remember correctly, it was claimed that the icon was from Mt. Athos at The Holy Monastery of Zographou

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #994 on: April 19, 2015, 03:08:30 PM »
If I remember correctly, it was claimed that the icon was from Mt. Athos at The Holy Monastery of Zographou

There are definitely older versions of this icon- I personally saw a version dated to Russian in the 1700's. However a ROCOR priest said he witnessed this particular one being painted by a monk in the USA while listening to Rush Limbaugh (he wasn't joking).
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #995 on: April 19, 2015, 03:14:31 PM »
I've seen that icon in the lobby of my local ROCOR parish.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #996 on: April 27, 2015, 01:43:34 PM »
A very curious icon of Jesus Christ I found today, by Br. Robert Lentz.








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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #997 on: April 27, 2015, 01:46:16 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I don't see the Jews.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #998 on: April 27, 2015, 03:20:59 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I don't see the Jews.

They're tricky like that.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #999 on: April 27, 2015, 07:07:39 PM »
There's a boatload of them.
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Re: Strange icons
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1001 on: April 27, 2015, 07:47:09 PM »
There's a boatload of them.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1002 on: April 30, 2015, 06:36:51 PM »
Just a bit uncommon icon of the Lord's presentantion in the Temple

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This one maybe is even a bit schlockie
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1003 on: April 30, 2015, 06:39:53 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I don't see the Jews.

They're tricky like that.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1004 on: April 30, 2015, 06:49:21 PM »
Just a bit uncommon icon of the Lord's presentantion in the Temple



Circumcision (1 January), not Presentation (2 February).  ;)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1005 on: April 30, 2015, 06:55:28 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I don't see the Jews.

They're tricky like that.

The guy on the far right beyond the Antichrist on the horse. He's holding a moneybag and has a yellow star on his hat.

"Left," I mean.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1006 on: April 30, 2015, 06:57:27 PM »
I've always been told using icons for polemical purposes like this is wrong.

I wondered about that too. I've never seen any, as I recall.
There's the delightful nuttiness of the add-on to the traditional Mystical Ark of Salvation icon to include the Pope, Luther, and international Jewry shooting at the Church.



I don't see the Jews.

They're tricky like that.

The guy on the far right beyond the Antichrist on the horse. He's holding a moneybag and has a yellow star on his hat.

If you say so. Too small for me to tell.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1007 on: April 30, 2015, 07:09:23 PM »
I'm just going by Dormition Skete's website.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1008 on: May 05, 2015, 04:27:49 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1009 on: May 05, 2015, 04:32:32 PM »
Nice...
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1010 on: May 06, 2015, 02:39:28 PM »

Adam's face instead of skull
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1011 on: May 07, 2015, 04:16:03 PM »
What's with the stalker underneath the Christ?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1012 on: June 03, 2015, 04:27:15 PM »
Just a bit untypical

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« Reply #1013 on: June 03, 2015, 04:41:12 PM »
^I want that.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1014 on: June 03, 2015, 04:44:09 PM »
The memory of God should be treasured in our hearts like the precious pearl mentioned in the Holy Gospel. Our life's goal should be to nurture and contemplate God always within, and never let it depart, for this steadfastness will drive demons away from us. - Paraphrased from St. Philotheus of Sinai
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1015 on: June 12, 2015, 05:42:52 PM »
I mean st. John being trown from the tower


And, actually, a fresco, not so strange as just presenting the fundators of the church, but the hats... :)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1016 on: June 12, 2015, 05:58:07 PM »
^Love the fire alarm (I think that's what that red thing is).
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1017 on: June 12, 2015, 06:35:27 PM »
The guy in the middle has a hat that goes to the chandelier.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1018 on: June 18, 2015, 11:27:53 PM »
What about this?


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1019 on: June 19, 2015, 12:01:37 AM »
Wowsers. Never seen that picture before.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1020 on: June 19, 2015, 12:02:31 AM »
Wowsers. Never seen that picture before.

Would it be considered strange if it were an Old World city?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1021 on: June 19, 2015, 12:03:01 AM »
What about this?



The native Americans in mandorlas on the left and right ..... if they're representing Christ and the Mother of God, then this "icon" belongs in the schlock file. Neither Christ, nor His Mother, were native Americans. :P >:(
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1022 on: June 19, 2015, 12:03:11 AM »
What about this?



The freeway is a nice touch.
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« Reply #1023 on: June 19, 2015, 12:03:13 AM »
Wowsers. Never seen that picture before.

Would it be considered strange if it were an Old World city?

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« Reply #1024 on: June 19, 2015, 12:04:16 AM »
What about this?



The native Americans in mandorlas on the left and right ..... if they're representing Christ and the Mother of God, then this "icon" belongs in the schlock file. Neither Christ, nor His Mother, were native Americans. :P >:(

But they were Ethiopians, right?  :angel:
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« Reply #1025 on: June 19, 2015, 12:08:13 AM »
What about this?



The native Americans in mandorlas on the left and right ..... if they're representing Christ and the Mother of God, then this "icon" belongs in the schlock file. Neither Christ, nor His Mother, were native Americans. :P >:(

But they were Ethiopians, right?  :angel:

They sure weren't native Americans.  :police:
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« Reply #1026 on: June 19, 2015, 12:11:40 AM »
Wow. A synaxis of the Orthodox Churches of my home town.

Most are fairly accurate visually.  Which is either scary or impressive.


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1027 on: June 19, 2015, 02:46:44 PM »
What about this?



The native Americans in mandorlas on the left and right ..... if they're representing Christ and the Mother of God, then this "icon" belongs in the schlock file. Neither Christ, nor His Mother, were native Americans. :P >:(

But they were Ethiopians, right?  :angel:

They sure weren't native Americans.  :police:

Russians, no?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1029 on: June 19, 2015, 03:20:42 PM »
Since icons are "written" maybe a misprint?
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« Reply #1030 on: June 19, 2015, 08:02:40 PM »
Since icons are "written" maybe a misprint?

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« Reply #1031 on: June 19, 2015, 08:18:31 PM »




Looks a bit like the Theotokos of Athos.

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« Reply #1032 on: June 19, 2015, 08:30:05 PM »
What about this?



The native Americans in mandorlas on the left and right ..... if they're representing Christ and the Mother of God, then this "icon" belongs in the schlock file. Neither Christ, nor His Mother, were native Americans. :P >:(

But they were Ethiopians, right?  :angel:

They sure weren't native Americans.  :police:

Russians, no?

No.  ::)
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« Reply #1033 on: June 19, 2015, 08:33:54 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1034 on: June 20, 2015, 12:07:43 AM »
Since icons are "written" maybe a misprint?

Icons are not written, they are painted:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,59206.msg1145103/topicseen.html#msg1145103

Must be the language; do Readers read? or sing?
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