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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2385 on: October 30, 2018, 07:52:25 PM »
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A strangely realistic icon of St. Alexei, Metropolitan of Moscow.

In what way?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2386 on: October 30, 2018, 08:06:30 PM »
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A strangely realistic icon of St. Alexei, Metropolitan of Moscow.

In what way?

The wrinkles on the eyebrows - the eyes, the realistic but slightly too long fingers.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2387 on: October 31, 2018, 12:20:14 AM »
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A strangely realistic icon of St. Alexei, Metropolitan of Moscow.

In what way?

The wrinkles on the eyebrows - the eyes, the realistic but slightly too long fingers.

It doesn't seem realistic.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2388 on: October 31, 2018, 06:09:03 AM »
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A strangely realistic icon of St. Alexei, Metropolitan of Moscow.

In what way?

The wrinkles on the eyebrows - the eyes, the realistic but slightly too long fingers.

It doesn't seem realistic.

+1
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2389 on: November 11, 2018, 02:20:53 PM »


Depicting the Word of God, preincarnational Jesus I suppose.

The lack of a cross halo probably makes it not only uncanonical but maybe heretical.
“God,”
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2390 on: November 11, 2018, 06:11:36 PM »
In one of the churches in Wrocław, Polish Orthodox patriotic wall

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2391 on: December 05, 2018, 03:02:29 PM »
A bit strange, at least for Georgians (and it's Georgian icon of st. Gregory Peradze)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2392 on: December 15, 2018, 05:23:46 PM »
"For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" - Mark 8:36 (DRA)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2393 on: December 15, 2018, 06:10:01 PM »
^^I'd seen it before and if I recall correctly, it's just a piece of something bigger. But I may be wrong.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2394 on: December 15, 2018, 06:25:49 PM »
Here's an image from further away...

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2395 on: December 28, 2018, 02:02:53 AM »
"For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" - Mark 8:36 (DRA)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2396 on: December 28, 2018, 03:58:19 AM »
^^ wow
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2397 on: December 31, 2018, 12:58:03 AM »
So, is Christ supposed to be subordinate to the Czar?

I don't get it.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2398 on: December 31, 2018, 12:59:12 AM »


I guess that's St. Andrew. I've seen him depicted steering a boat before.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2399 on: December 31, 2018, 01:07:32 AM »
So, is Christ supposed to be subordinate to the Czar?

I don't get it.
Some sort of vision of the Tsar-Martyr these soldiers with that banner saw, I guess. Knowing Russian would be very helpful here.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2400 on: December 31, 2018, 02:27:13 AM »
Thanks.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2402 on: January 03, 2019, 04:48:15 PM »
^^ it's schlock orthproduct.
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« Reply #2403 on: January 21, 2019, 05:11:29 PM »
"For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" - Mark 8:36 (DRA)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2404 on: January 21, 2019, 06:38:50 PM »


The inscription even has a question mark.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2405 on: January 21, 2019, 07:14:10 PM »
Is that St. Raphael?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2406 on: January 21, 2019, 07:36:27 PM »
Chicken?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2407 on: January 21, 2019, 10:16:34 PM »
The Alkonost was a mythological bird-human character which persisted into the early years of Christianisation of the northern Slavs and which was even sometimes used in manuscripts to symbolise the Holy Spirit.   More commonly found in lubok imagery.
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« Reply #2408 on: January 21, 2019, 10:20:59 PM »
The Alkonost was a mythological bird-human character which persisted into the early years of Christianisation of the northern Slavs and which was even sometimes used in manuscripts to symbolise the Holy Spirit.   More commonly found in lubok imagery.

So essentially a pagan icon? Ugh
“God,”
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“There is much suffering,
But the church is alive. "

 “How long, Archpriest, are we to suffer thus?” I answered: “Until our very death, Markovna!” And she replied, with a sigh: “So be it, Petrovich, let us plod on.” - Life of Avvakum by Himself

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2409 on: January 23, 2019, 01:40:17 AM »
Not quite an icon but....
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2410 on: January 23, 2019, 03:16:32 AM »
Not quite an icon but....


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2411 on: March 19, 2019, 02:39:21 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2412 on: March 19, 2019, 06:26:54 PM »
Is that St. Simeon? What does the Hebrew say?  :)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2413 on: March 20, 2019, 01:28:52 PM »
Is that St. Simeon? What does the Hebrew say?  :)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2414 on: March 22, 2019, 09:22:04 AM »
New favorite:
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« Reply #2415 on: March 22, 2019, 09:38:27 AM »
Is that St. Simeon? What does the Hebrew say?  :)

The Hebrew says, "Joseph the Righteous."

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2416 on: March 22, 2019, 03:02:40 PM »
Rejoice, sea that drowned invisible Pharaoh



See even the little satan with the pharaoh's crown....  :o
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2417 on: March 22, 2019, 03:05:10 PM »
Invisible? In Exodus, he's pretty visible.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2418 on: March 22, 2019, 03:17:16 PM »
Invisible? In Exodus, he's pretty visible.

i've taken this from one of the Akathist translations; in  Polish there are "invisible thoughts of the pharaoh"
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2419 on: March 22, 2019, 03:18:45 PM »
A bit like Satan entering Judas, etc.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2420 on: March 25, 2019, 04:52:22 AM »
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« Reply #2421 on: March 25, 2019, 02:01:40 PM »
Invisible? In Exodus, he's pretty visible.

The "invisible Pharaoh" would be Satan.
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« Reply #2422 on: March 25, 2019, 02:04:40 PM »
Okay.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2423 on: April 08, 2019, 09:56:20 AM »
Baptism in the Jordan on the Cross?... I think I've seen only Crucifixion, Resurrection and the 4 evangelists.


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2424 on: April 08, 2019, 10:01:38 AM »
I like it  :D
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2425 on: April 08, 2019, 10:06:13 AM »
Baptism in the Jordan on the Cross?...

Is that the one they throw in the local area’s body of water?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2426 on: April 09, 2019, 08:17:03 AM »
I don't know if it's strange/schlock/ecumenical:

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2427 on: April 09, 2019, 11:51:04 AM »

You know, I caught myself doing this on the Sunday of the Publican and the Pharisee... I was struggling to hang on to my squirmy one year old and bent to kiss the icon before I realized I had just venerated the Pharisee.  Oops.  At least Caitlin got it right.  ;)

On American sites I've found two uncommon (at least for me) icons: icon for Sunday of the Prodigal Son and icon for Sunday of Publican and Pharisee.

Is it Greek or American Orthodox tradition? Are there any more icons which don't present Saints, events/persons from the Bible, events/persons from the Tradition but some unreal things?

Are they treated (venerated) as normal icons or are they just to illustrate pararels? Why the Publican has a halo despite being not canonised and even not real?

Sorry EofK for imposing your post but it made me think.

You are right that in our modern age this is an American phenomenon.  on the other hand there is a precedent in the old frescoes of Biblical scenes  on the walls of churches in for example in Cappadocia.  What is different is that you do not see individual icons of Biblical scenes that are currently available from American sources.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2428 on: April 13, 2019, 01:18:06 PM »
I don't know if it's strange, but I think until now I've not seen such icon: Salutations/Praises to the Theotokos (in Church Slavonic: Похвала Пресвятой Богородице)









It reminds a bit icon "In Thee all creation rejoices"/synaxis of the Theotokos.
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