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Re: Strange icons
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1981 on: October 27, 2017, 08:54:11 PM »
The Mandilion (the one with the neck) is the work of one of the most renowned modern icon painter, Archimandrit Zinon Theodore.

The modeling of the face is typical to Zinon's style and based on early Christian art. In contrary to other images, e.g. Russian icons, the picture features a very distinct thick nose, large yeys and... a neck which is usually not painted on this type of icon.

As to the second icon, the "Dormition",  I would say it is an avant-garde icon. The modeling, colour choice and ornaments are very subtle and geometric, it looks very different from traditional Dormitrion icons.

We should not forget that the most essential function of each icon is prayer - and I would ask a question: is it possible to pray with that icon? I'm getting mixed feelings....

Someone said the interpretation is very "sweet" - well, it should not be... An icon painter should avoid excessive sentimentality and to some extent, avoid showing emotions in icons.

It is definitelly an amazing piece of art, but decorative art :)

I love the Dormition icon.  And it will always be sweet that as Christ looks upon the body of His Mother, he lovingly holds her soul, just as she cradled Him in the world.  I wouldn't even describe the icon too be over-sentimental, but the gaze of Son to Mother is wonderful.  And, yes, it is prayerful and worthy of contemplation.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1982 on: October 29, 2017, 07:33:24 AM »



Is it armenian?

Armenian or Georgian (they have 3 different alphabets, at least one of them was probably based on the Armenian one created by st. Mesrop), our Armenian posters could answer ;)
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« Reply #1983 on: October 29, 2017, 03:13:21 PM »
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« Reply #1985 on: October 31, 2017, 06:28:43 PM »
First icon-o'-lantern I remember seeing...

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1987 on: October 31, 2017, 10:23:50 PM »
Is there some official or semi-official guideline on how to construct hodge-podge creatures for icons?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1988 on: November 01, 2017, 09:37:55 AM »
I don't think so, but I've seen that dragon-bird thing in other places. In this case it looks like it's supposed to represent paganism/ occultism.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1989 on: November 01, 2017, 09:54:25 AM »
I don't think so, but I've seen that dragon-bird thing in other places. In this case it looks like it's supposed to represent paganism/ occultism.

"New World Order"

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« Reply #1990 on: November 01, 2017, 10:15:01 AM »
I don't think so, but I've seen that dragon-bird thing in other places. In this case it looks like it's supposed to represent paganism/ occultism.

"New World Order"

Okay, I see it now. "Occult movement, paganism, new world order." What's Macedonian for, "I strongly recommend Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future"?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1991 on: November 01, 2017, 01:16:26 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1992 on: November 02, 2017, 12:51:53 PM »
Woow, what is this icon? Who is the Saint - and why the leg?

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1994 on: November 02, 2017, 03:39:03 PM »
Woow, what is this icon? Who is the Saint - and why the leg?

 Saint Unmercenary PhysiciansCosma and Damian Saint operating (a kind of transplantation? they were also wonderworkers).
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1995 on: November 02, 2017, 08:31:16 PM »
Dude got mad calves.
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« Reply #1997 on: November 05, 2017, 08:43:38 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1998 on: November 06, 2017, 01:08:56 AM »

I like it, beside the strange figure at the lower right. I'm guessing it may actually represent Protestants, given this icon was apparently painted 11 years after the Synod of Jerusalem and the icon has him as Protohierarch of Jerusalem?
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« Reply #1999 on: November 06, 2017, 11:02:47 AM »
If it were a protestant, I don't think it would make sense to depict him as a pious patron. Saint James would be stomping on him or making him dance or take Christmas off or something grievous for Protestants like that. I believe that style of dress was pretty widespread beyond protestants.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2000 on: November 06, 2017, 01:38:38 PM »
If it were a protestant, I don't think it would make sense to depict him as a pious patron. Saint James would be stomping on him or making him dance or take Christmas off or something grievous for Protestants like that. I believe that style of dress was pretty widespread beyond protestants.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2001 on: November 06, 2017, 02:06:19 PM »
If it were a protestant, I don't think it would make sense to depict him as a pious patron. Saint James would be stomping on him or making him dance or take Christmas off or something grievous for Protestants like that. I believe that style of dress was pretty widespread beyond protestants.
I thought it might represent doubtful Protestants bowing down to the wisdom of the throne of St. James or something, or maybe a particular episode of Protestants converting to Orthodoxy. IDK, you have a good point anyway. Maybe it's just the iconographer Bouniales introducing himself and the chronological proximity to the council is mere coincidence.
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« Reply #2002 on: November 06, 2017, 03:12:15 PM »
If it were a protestant, I don't think it would make sense to depict him as a pious patron. Saint James would be stomping on him or making him dance or take Christmas off or something grievous for Protestants like that. I believe that style of dress was pretty widespread beyond protestants.
I thought it might represent doubtful Protestants bowing down to the wisdom of the throne of St. James or something, or maybe a particular episode of Protestants converting to Orthodoxy. IDK, you have a good point anyway. Maybe it's just the iconographer Bouniales introducing himself and the chronological proximity to the council is mere coincidence.

That's how patrons had been represented for centuries by then. I don't see the figure as a mystery.
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Re: Strange icons
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2004 on: November 08, 2017, 03:57:57 PM »
^^ Their fingers!!! I also don't know why legs of st. Nektarios are shown?..
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« Reply #2005 on: November 08, 2017, 04:53:13 PM »
Frankly speaking, don't know if it's strange or not:
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« Reply #2006 on: November 08, 2017, 08:18:07 PM »
It wouldn't look out of place as a medallion on a ceiling or a minor dome.
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« Reply #2007 on: November 15, 2017, 03:56:35 PM »
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« Reply #2009 on: November 15, 2017, 04:42:37 PM »
That latter one looks like it might be the Romanian New Martyrs under Communism.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2010 on: November 16, 2017, 06:16:05 AM »
That latter one looks like it might be the Romanian New Martyrs under Communism.

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« Reply #2011 on: November 19, 2017, 02:57:20 PM »
Ethiopian Orthodox icon, Abouna Aregawi:
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« Reply #2013 on: November 24, 2017, 07:16:32 AM »
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« Reply #2016 on: December 04, 2017, 04:03:19 PM »
^^Love it! But it should be written in Coptic ;> (aghh, panhellenism)
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« Reply #2017 on: December 04, 2017, 04:03:54 PM »
(aghh, panhellenism)

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« Reply #2018 on: December 04, 2017, 04:11:40 PM »
He should never wear that without a pair of shades.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2019 on: December 29, 2017, 10:36:37 AM »
Gallery - modern Greek Catholics icons in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus
I know that actually some (most?) of them pretend to be an art, instead of liturgical use.
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« Reply #2020 on: January 05, 2018, 10:01:38 PM »
^^Love it! But it should be written in Coptic ;> (aghh, panhellenism)

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« Reply #2021 on: January 05, 2018, 11:25:18 PM »
That latter one looks like it might be the Romanian New Martyrs under Communism.

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« Reply #2022 on: January 06, 2018, 08:43:04 AM »
^^Love it! But it should be written in Coptic ;>

Why? He's a Greek Pope in a Greek church.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2023 on: January 06, 2018, 02:55:12 PM »
That latter one looks like it might be the Romanian New Martyrs under Communism.

Yes, there are presented Romanian Martyrs under Communism.
  Most of them iron guardsists.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #2024 on: January 06, 2018, 03:50:20 PM »
That latter one looks like it might be the Romanian New Martyrs under Communism.

Yes, there are presented Romanian Martyrs under Communism.
  Most of them iron guardsists.

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the reason not one of them has been canonized yet despite popular piety etc. the patriarchate realizes what a PR disaster that would be within the current climate.
"I saw a miracle where 2 people entered church one by baptism and one by chrismation. On pictures the one received by full baptism was shinning in light the one by chrismation no."