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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1665 on: July 31, 2016, 08:26:27 PM »
^^ one of the cutiest icons I've ever seen.

It looks like it should be for a children's storybook.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1666 on: August 01, 2016, 10:46:12 AM »
st. Stefan Lazarević (the way angels are depicted)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1667 on: August 01, 2016, 10:49:27 AM »
st. Stefan Lazarević (the way angels are depicted)


You mean the way he is depicted, don't you?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1668 on: August 01, 2016, 11:01:18 AM »
That hair looks luxurious.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1669 on: August 01, 2016, 11:07:41 AM »
Can someone with knowledge of Serbian history explain to me the sainthood of Sefan Lazarevic? It seems strange and anticlimactic to me for the son of Tsar Lazar, after his father's death in the Battle of Kosovo, to take up the role of Ottoman vassal, join the Ottomans in battle against his fellow Christians, and still receive the title of sainthood.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1670 on: August 01, 2016, 01:08:11 PM »
Can someone with knowledge of Serbian history explain to me the sainthood of Sefan Lazarevic? It seems strange and anticlimactic to me for the son of Tsar Lazar, after his father's death in the Battle of Kosovo, to take up the role of Ottoman vassal, join the Ottomans in battle against his fellow Christians, and still receive the title of sainthood.
But then he was fighting against Ottomans, plus was the initiator and found of construction many Serbian monasteries and churches, including Manasija monastery. Due to him Serbian culture and spiritual (and not only) literature had a period of reinnesance, due to it we managed to keep our identity the period under the Turks.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1671 on: August 03, 2016, 04:36:57 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1672 on: August 04, 2016, 12:23:49 AM »
Icon of Hippocrates   :o

I guess the lack of halo is a redeeming quality, but why paint The Father of Medicine with Christ at all?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1673 on: August 04, 2016, 03:19:45 PM »
I could imagine because the Hippocratic oath is filled with Christian morals, even though he was a pagan.  He even opposed abortion and euthanasia, something that is debatable these days.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1674 on: August 04, 2016, 03:28:06 PM »
I could imagine because the Hippocratic oath is filled with Christian morals, even though he was a pagan.  He even opposed abortion and euthanasia, something that is debatable these days.

Or because he's Greek. 
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1675 on: August 04, 2016, 03:30:42 PM »
St. Justin Martyr would list him a Christian.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1676 on: August 04, 2016, 03:34:11 PM »
St. Justin Martyr would list him a Christian.

Oh?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1677 on: August 04, 2016, 04:30:11 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1678 on: August 04, 2016, 04:44:56 PM »
St. Justin Martyr would list him a Christian.

Oh?
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That's a very particular application for a very particular purpose.  I doubt Hippocrates would've been communed without baptism based on this. 
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1679 on: August 04, 2016, 05:14:07 PM »
I could imagine because the Hippocratic oath is filled with Christian morals, even though he was a pagan.  He even opposed abortion and euthanasia, something that is debatable these days.

Or because he's Greek.

ah, yes...I forgot about that
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1680 on: August 04, 2016, 05:23:46 PM »
St. Justin Martyr would list him a Christian.

Oh?
Chapter 46

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That's a very particular application for a very particular purpose.  I doubt Hippocrates would've been communed without baptism based on this.
Sure, but maybe whoever did this art was thinking about that. Or it's just Hellenism indeed. :P
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1681 on: August 14, 2016, 04:30:32 PM »


 ;)
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« Reply #1682 on: August 14, 2016, 05:16:34 PM »


 ;)
Looks like the lamb has a case of pink eye  :'(
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1683 on: August 14, 2016, 05:21:11 PM »


 ;)
Looks like the lamb has a case of pink eye  :'(

Maybe he's been crying over Trullo 82.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1684 on: August 14, 2016, 11:35:03 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1685 on: August 15, 2016, 12:09:57 AM »




I like them!
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« Reply #1686 on: August 15, 2016, 12:20:25 AM »
Certainly interesting, and white, IMHO, could just as easily sybolize heaven and divinity as much as red does, but then the blue loses its meaning. If we are going to use white, we should use red rather than blue. The white for heaven and divine light, the red for flesh and blood. Isn't this how it is done in Coptic icons anyway?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1687 on: August 15, 2016, 06:31:29 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1688 on: August 23, 2016, 04:24:19 PM »
Fingers at the bottom of the icon
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1689 on: August 23, 2016, 04:31:57 PM »
I actually LOL'd. 
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« Reply #1690 on: August 23, 2016, 04:40:28 PM »
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« Reply #1691 on: August 23, 2016, 04:47:21 PM »
I actually LOL'd.
Why?

It appeared to me as if the iconographer painted a theft in progress. 
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« Reply #1692 on: August 23, 2016, 04:54:06 PM »
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« Reply #1693 on: August 30, 2016, 05:03:30 PM »
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« Reply #1694 on: September 04, 2016, 02:04:18 PM »


Clearly based off of this image from the Catacomb of Priscilla



I thought that the woman in the catacomb was a woman who had been buried there, not the Mother of God.
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« Reply #1695 on: September 04, 2016, 05:42:25 PM »
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« Reply #1696 on: September 24, 2016, 10:10:23 AM »


^I want. 
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« Reply #1697 on: September 26, 2016, 03:57:17 PM »
There's another variant of the Virgin of the Sign which also shows the child in the womb as an actual unclothed infant but with a less naturalistic posture.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1699 on: September 27, 2016, 10:43:44 AM »
I read the information at those links and still see nothing wrong with that icon. 
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« Reply #1700 on: September 27, 2016, 10:47:12 AM »
I read the information at those links and still see nothing wrong with that icon.

It does not conform to any of the Canonical Types (tm) listed in the Sacred LBK Database.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1701 on: September 27, 2016, 11:57:44 AM »
I'm not sure what's wrong with it, per se (and I'm no authority), but it does seem strange, as in the "Strange Icons" thread, to have a pregnant Theotokos and unborn Christ.

So in that sense, it does seem to differ and be anomalous to most accepted traditional depictions. Perhaps that's what LBK's criticism is.
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« Reply #1702 on: September 27, 2016, 12:02:32 PM »
At a certain point in time the Theotokos of Vladimir or the Rublev Trinity would have probably looked a bit odd too.
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« Reply #1703 on: September 27, 2016, 12:12:50 PM »
At a certain point in time the Theotokos of Vladimir or the Rublev Trinity would have probably looked a bit odd too.

I'm sure there was an LBK back then too.
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« Reply #1704 on: September 28, 2016, 10:34:49 AM »
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« Reply #1705 on: September 28, 2016, 10:42:38 AM »
^Sorry, Metropolitan Tikhon.  You'll have to actually become a saint to get on the wall now. 
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« Reply #1706 on: September 28, 2016, 12:44:21 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1707 on: September 29, 2016, 09:12:22 AM »
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« Reply #1708 on: September 29, 2016, 10:03:55 AM »

Are these primates of EO and EC churches?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1709 on: September 30, 2016, 06:56:00 AM »
^^ yes. But most of them is difficult to recognise (at least for me).


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