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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1260 on: January 13, 2016, 10:27:32 PM »
I'm afraid they're not. To my knowledge it's because they are a little to specific about who the enemies of the church are.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1261 on: January 13, 2016, 10:52:16 PM »
Here's my input to this bizarre thread :D



What do you know about the group that put this out?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1262 on: January 13, 2016, 11:36:36 PM »
What about those icons? Canonical? I really like them.





No, they are not canonical. Here's an explanation:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11209.msg297730.html#msg297730
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1263 on: January 14, 2016, 08:53:58 AM »
Nothing really, vollnut.
I found it among these other weird things: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/260012578459214917/
Notice the presence of what I think are Rasputin "icons".
But it kindda makes sense. Nazi occultism regards the black sun as a symbol for the "thule", the uncreated, so it kindda makes sense.
It's just not an "icon".
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1264 on: January 14, 2016, 10:06:36 AM »
Welcome back, LBK!  :)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1265 on: January 14, 2016, 04:22:04 PM »
Welcome back, LBK!  :)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1266 on: January 15, 2016, 01:21:50 AM »
What about those icons? Canonical? I really like them.





No, they are not canonical. Here's an explanation:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11209.msg297730.html#msg297730
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1267 on: January 15, 2016, 01:36:29 AM »
Do any of you know who the saint behind St. Paul is?

If you mean at the bow of the boat, it's St. Nicodemus of the Holy Mountain.  If you're talking about one of the bishops, I have no idea.  All five are labeled "Holy Fathers".
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1268 on: January 27, 2016, 03:16:08 PM »
Do any of you know who the saint behind St. Paul is?

If you mean at the bow of the boat, it's St. Nicodemus of the Holy Mountain.  If you're talking about one of the bishops, I have no idea.  All five are labeled "Holy Fathers".

Thank you, it was he.

Another nice one. Not sure if it's canonical.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1269 on: January 30, 2016, 09:37:43 AM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1270 on: January 30, 2016, 07:49:38 PM »
Look left. My present avatar. Google Lenin icons, etc. The avatar is not serious BTW. Take it for what it is though, especially in relation to this thread. It also shows the competition view of Russians in the matter, even among the right.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1271 on: January 31, 2016, 11:47:29 AM »
Look left. My present avatar. Google Lenin icons, etc. The avatar is not serious BTW. Take it for what it is though, especially in relation to this thread. It also shows the competition view of Russians in the matter, even among the right.

Where did I read recently that the Soviet Era is being reviewed with the glory parts being moved up front for reconsideration? Was it here in OC or elsewhere?
Some folks in Russia are rewriting events, much as we are in America, however there they are taking what was truly evil and scrubbing the hell out of it.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1272 on: January 31, 2016, 01:55:49 PM »
Look left. My present avatar. Google Lenin icons, etc. The avatar is not serious BTW. Take it for what it is though, especially in relation to this thread. It also shows the competition view of Russians in the matter, even among the right.

Even the Communist Party is pious:

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1273 on: January 31, 2016, 02:19:06 PM »
This is not necessarily strange, but this icon was in the church bulletin today, and I don't know who the people are.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1274 on: January 31, 2016, 02:27:40 PM »
They're just random people being protected by a guardian angel.  :)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1275 on: January 31, 2016, 02:32:20 PM »
It's common knowledge that you secretly want to be born in early 17th century Russia.  As a serf or a royal, I know not.  Chances are serf.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1276 on: January 31, 2016, 04:00:01 PM »
Look left. My present avatar. Google Lenin icons, etc. The avatar is not serious BTW. Take it for what it is though, especially in relation to this thread. It also shows the competition view of Russians in the matter, even among the right.

Even the Communist Party is pious:



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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1277 on: January 31, 2016, 04:35:47 PM »
They're just random people being protected by a guardian angel.  :)

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1278 on: February 01, 2016, 06:01:47 AM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1279 on: February 01, 2016, 11:35:30 AM »
Some of the Wise Thief:




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Re: Strange icons
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1281 on: February 01, 2016, 11:55:13 AM »


What does the inscription say?
Above the man "Adam"
and below "Open to me the gates of repentance, the Giver of Life"
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1282 on: February 01, 2016, 11:57:18 AM »
Thanks.  I figured out "Adam", "doors/gates", and "Giver of Life" but didn't put them all together. 

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1283 on: February 05, 2016, 03:09:17 PM »
I have an odd looking icon of St. Alexis the Man of God, which I received as a child from my godmother. In traditional icons, he is portrayed in a similar manner to St. John the Baptist and wearing a beggar's robe. Mine looks more like a monk with one hand raised in blessing.

I think the reason why the iconographer wrote him this way was because she didn't have any copies to work from. So, she used the description found in various manuals and improvised.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1284 on: February 06, 2016, 05:19:25 AM »
The Wise Thief icons aren't strange, but I had never seen one of Adam before the gates of Eden.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1285 on: February 06, 2016, 05:37:19 AM »
The Wise Thief icons aren't strange, but I had never seen one of Adam before the gates of Eden.





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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1286 on: February 06, 2016, 05:49:03 AM »
^Hmmm, I have seen the last one of the angel expelling Adam and Eve.  The first two, I wouldn't say they are the same subject.  None of those three are strange.  The work on the second one is folksy.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1287 on: February 10, 2016, 07:19:08 AM »
Saints that have built churches are sometimes depicted holding up a church.


This one of St. Denys of Paris, during a bishop's consecration of the "Orthodox Church of France", has him holding the entirety of France.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1288 on: February 10, 2016, 04:31:56 PM »
The French Church is still alive? Did they go vagante?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1289 on: February 10, 2016, 07:08:00 PM »
The French Church is still alive? Did they go vagante?

Mais oui.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1290 on: February 10, 2016, 07:19:10 PM »
The French Church is still alive? Did they go vagante?

Mais oui.

That figures.

Their "icon" of St Denis isn't strange, it's schlock. It speaks of the glory of France as greater than the worth of the saint. Very, very worldly.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1291 on: February 10, 2016, 08:57:18 PM »
Look left. My present avatar. Google Lenin icons, etc. The avatar is not serious BTW. Take it for what it is though, especially in relation to this thread. It also shows the competition view of Russians in the matter, even among the right.

Even the Communist Party is pious:



If I had to guess, I would say that's a Victory Day celebration and not a Communist Party event.  note the Orthodox Priest.  On Victory Day, they fly modified Soviet flags that look like that in commemoration of the defeat of Nazi Germany.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1292 on: February 11, 2016, 06:36:56 AM »
not a Communist Party event.  note the Orthodox Priest. 

You do not know much about Russian communists, or priests for that matter.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1293 on: February 11, 2016, 02:08:11 PM »
not a Communist Party event.  note the Orthodox Priest. 

You do not know much about Russian communists, or priests for that matter.

Who qualifies?
I'd like to talk with them as I've questions.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1294 on: February 16, 2016, 07:38:33 AM »


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1295 on: February 16, 2016, 02:23:28 PM »
Where are those from?  And who are the two saints in the first image?

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1296 on: February 16, 2016, 05:19:00 PM »
Where are those from?  And who are the two saints in the first image?

Ascension church in Belgrade.

On the left the rector of parish in Veljunj, fr. Branko Dobrosavljević, killed by Catholic Croats in 1941.
On the right hegumen Rafailo of Šišatovci monastery, killed by Catholic Croats in 1941. He has studied arts and painted a lot of iconostases.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1297 on: February 17, 2016, 12:37:47 PM »
Where are those from?  And who are the two saints in the first image?

Ascension church in Belgrade.

On the left the rector of parish in Veljunj, fr. Branko Dobrosavljević, killed by Catholic Croats in 1941.
On the right hegumen Rafailo of Šišatovci monastery, killed by Catholic Croats in 1941. He has studied arts and painted a lot of iconostases.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1298 on: February 17, 2016, 06:08:50 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1299 on: February 18, 2016, 10:16:26 PM »
[img height-300]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/c5/13/05c513cb73e06a71734d1a5bf0c901c8.jpg[/img]

Not strange, but schlock. Self-expression trumps basic theology, a theology common to both Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

"The pine tree is the way, the truth and the life" is what this painting is saying.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1300 on: February 19, 2016, 01:01:26 AM »
[img height-300]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/c5/13/05c513cb73e06a71734d1a5bf0c901c8.jpg[/img]

Not strange, but schlock. Self-expression trumps basic theology, a theology common to both Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

"The pine tree is the way, the truth and the life" is what this painting is saying.

I figured as much. I just wanted to check that it wasn't some 'rare,' but legitimate, icon I had never seen before.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1301 on: February 19, 2016, 01:04:24 AM »

I figured as much. I just wanted to check that it wasn't some 'rare,' but legitimate, icon I had never seen before.

It was painted by a Roman Catholic artist for a Roman Catholic church called Our Lady of the Pines.
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« Reply #1302 on: February 20, 2016, 08:48:53 PM »
[img height-300]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/c5/13/05c513cb73e06a71734d1a5bf0c901c8.jpg[/img]

Not strange, but schlock. Self-expression trumps basic theology, a theology common to both Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

"The pine tree is the way, the truth and the life" is what this painting is saying.

How do you know it's a painting and not an icon?
I don't know icon-stuff and am wondering.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1303 on: February 20, 2016, 10:04:20 PM »
[img height-300]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/c5/13/05c513cb73e06a71734d1a5bf0c901c8.jpg[/img]

Not strange, but schlock. Self-expression trumps basic theology, a theology common to both Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

"The pine tree is the way, the truth and the life" is what this painting is saying.

How do you know it's a painting and not an icon?
I don't know icon-stuff and am wondering.
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Not every religious work painted in the distinctive abstracted styles associated with iconography is an icon. The "Schlock Icons" thread is full of "icons" which are anything but.
Am I posting? Or is it Schroedinger's Cat?

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1304 on: February 21, 2016, 12:17:12 AM »
[img height-300]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/c5/13/05c513cb73e06a71734d1a5bf0c901c8.jpg[/img]

Not strange, but schlock. Self-expression trumps basic theology, a theology common to both Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

"The pine tree is the way, the truth and the life" is what this painting is saying.

How do you know it's a painting and not an icon?
I don't know icon-stuff and am wondering.
TIA

Not every religious work painted in the distinctive abstracted styles associated with iconography is an icon. The "Schlock Icons" thread is full of "icons" which are anything but.
Oh, OK, I suppose I will schlep over to the Schlock Icon thread, but probably not. Thanks?
This place is strange enough!

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