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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1215 on: December 17, 2015, 01:05:45 PM »
It seems it's Greek Catholic



Well, having a lot of scenes in one Nativity icon is not so strange, but the way (I mean the lines and colours) they're divided here is not so common


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1216 on: December 17, 2015, 01:38:17 PM »
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I think he's supposed to be gay.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1217 on: December 17, 2015, 11:24:04 PM »


It seems to be a sort of synaxis of St. Joseph and the Theotokos. The lack of the Christ Child and their gestures towards one another are a little suspect, but I guess nothings wrong with it.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1218 on: December 17, 2015, 11:30:35 PM »
I like the color scheme. It's very dreamlike.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1219 on: December 20, 2015, 02:43:20 PM »
I like this one from St. Joseph.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1220 on: December 20, 2015, 04:29:26 PM »
I like it too, although I don't like it stylistically.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1221 on: December 20, 2015, 11:35:18 PM »
Dead baby Jesus... :o
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1222 on: December 21, 2015, 05:33:43 AM »
I like this one from St. Joseph.



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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1223 on: December 21, 2015, 08:04:21 AM »
I like this one from St. Joseph.



You are kidding, aren't you?
+1 And it's not strange, but schlock. Not Orthodox, at all
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1224 on: December 21, 2015, 10:28:50 AM »
No, I wasn't kidding.

Is the title "shadow of the father" Unorthodox too?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1225 on: December 21, 2015, 12:10:26 PM »
Dead baby Jesus... :o


dead baby Jesus, born of a man....and with a cloak held by God the Father instead of the Theotokos...

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1226 on: December 21, 2015, 12:15:53 PM »
No, I wasn't kidding.

Is the title "shadow of the father" Unorthodox too?

It's hard to find a single thing about that icon that would be Orthodox.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1227 on: December 21, 2015, 12:22:48 PM »
No, I wasn't kidding.

Is the title "shadow of the father" Unorthodox too?

It's hard to find a single thing about that icon that would be Orthodox.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1228 on: December 21, 2015, 12:42:11 PM »
I see, I did poorly with this one... Seems I should learn between exotic and exogenous. :P
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1229 on: December 22, 2015, 12:52:42 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1230 on: December 28, 2015, 03:51:38 PM »


Edited to resize image.  Mor.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1231 on: December 31, 2015, 03:59:47 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1232 on: December 31, 2015, 05:20:26 PM »
I was so confused I did a Google image search to try to find out more about it. That led me to some pinterest collections that included it. I should not have done that. I didn't even know.



Is this real life?

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1233 on: December 31, 2015, 11:11:55 PM »


It looks like it's a depiction of the Resurrection. 
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1234 on: January 01, 2016, 05:31:06 PM »
I was so confused I did a Google image search to try to find out more about it. That led me to some pinterest collections that included it. I should not have done that. I didn't even know.



Is this real life?
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I was looking for completly other thing, and, as practically always, I came across on a strange thing. As far I remember it was an illustration from an old German Bible. But your picture is... Amazing.




It looks like it's a depiction of the Resurrection.

It is (descent to the Hades). But depicted in not so common way ;)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1235 on: January 06, 2016, 05:34:01 PM »

Can anyone identify this icon?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1236 on: January 06, 2016, 06:48:21 PM »

Can anyone identify this icon?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1237 on: January 06, 2016, 10:22:20 PM »

Can anyone identify this icon?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1238 on: January 07, 2016, 04:20:54 AM »
Pokrov - Protection of the Theotokos (1st October) - it's written at the top!
Thank you! Sorry, I can only read English.
Unfortunately the image is incomplete - it is part of something bigger and doesn't show the Theotokos extending her veil over the people.

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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1239 on: January 07, 2016, 11:06:57 AM »
Yeah, the lack of the veil is why I couldn't identify it. This is the complete icon, btw.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1240 on: January 08, 2016, 10:46:34 AM »
^^ the whole icon is quite strange; well, there are some types of icosn presenting various feasts, but the whole construction is not typical, but nice, I would say
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1241 on: January 09, 2016, 01:01:22 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1242 on: January 10, 2016, 07:01:48 AM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1243 on: January 10, 2016, 01:46:08 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1244 on: January 10, 2016, 02:10:40 PM »


IIRC, Zhyrovichy icon is kinda similar to that one.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1245 on: January 11, 2016, 08:55:30 AM »
Is that the Elets icon?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1246 on: January 11, 2016, 11:26:05 AM »
This isn't a strange icon per se, but it does have an inexplicable element.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1247 on: January 11, 2016, 06:25:51 PM »
Theotokos undergoes the Trial by Poison prescribed in Numbers Chapter 5 for possible adultery:


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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1248 on: January 11, 2016, 06:31:26 PM »
This isn't a strange icon per se, but it does have an inexplicable element.

Why all the emphasis on the color of the hat of a shepard? What does that have to do with the incarnation, or salvation at all?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1249 on: January 11, 2016, 06:32:36 PM »
Theotokos undergoes the Trial by Poison prescribed in Numbers Chapter 5 for possible adultery:


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ivory, 6th c. eastern Mediterranean
Interesting! Is this recorded in the Protoevanglium of James or a similar text?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1250 on: January 11, 2016, 07:05:32 PM »
Theotokos undergoes the Trial by Poison prescribed in Numbers Chapter 5 for possible adultery:


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Interesting! Is this recorded in the Protoevanglium of James or a similar text?
Yes - there and in Pseudo-Matthew.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1251 on: January 11, 2016, 07:07:25 PM »
I think it probably didn't happen though because the Bible said that Mary's pregnancy was kept secret by Joseph.
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« Reply #1252 on: January 11, 2016, 08:02:58 PM »
That's quite possible, but it's still interesting.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1253 on: January 11, 2016, 08:26:17 PM »
That's quite possible, but it's still interesting.
Yes, there is a lot of weird stuff out there I think when you get into the 1st-2nd century Christianity (like the apocryphal gospels' miracle stories) and especially the Old Testament (like the Torah's trial by poison) that we often don't think about.

What is especially interesting for me is learning what the "original" story and set of beliefs about the resurrection were of the 1st century Christians that got rather misplaced or undervalued later. For example, what were the appearances to Peter and James that Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians?

Outside of Luke 24's mention of Simon seeing Jesus on Sunday, the mysterious "Gospel of the Hebrews" said that Jesus appeared to James and ate with him, so that James stopped fasting. Origen and Jerome both gave possible authority to that "Gospel", and Jerome translated it from Aramaic, but I believe that it was probably suppressed by the Church. For example, St. Cyril of Alexandria had the heretical Ebionites' version of this gospel destroyed. I wonder if the Vatican has this kind of thing stored away in its archives someplace.
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1254 on: January 12, 2016, 04:46:45 PM »
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1255 on: January 12, 2016, 05:07:35 PM »

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The Elets-Chernigov (Chernigov Spruce Tree) Icon of the Mother of God appeared on a spruce or fir tree near Chernigov in the year 1060, in the time of Prince Svyatoslav Yaroslavich, as was recorded in the Synodikon of Bishop Zosimus Prokopovich of Chernigov (1655-1657). The icon was placed in a church built in honor of the Elets-Spruce Icon of the Mother of God. While living an ascetical life on the Boldino Heights, St. Anthony gave his blessing to found a monastery at this place.
 

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« Reply #1256 on: January 12, 2016, 05:14:30 PM »
That's actually one of my favorite icons :)
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1257 on: January 12, 2016, 06:18:00 PM »
Three Hierarchs enlighteners for all the ages

I'm guessing the two on the left are Plato and Aristotle. Who is everybody else?
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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1258 on: January 13, 2016, 08:54:37 PM »
Here's my input to this bizarre thread :D
Some "icons":





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Re: Strange icons
« Reply #1259 on: January 13, 2016, 09:00:01 PM »
What about those icons? Canonical? I really like them.


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