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« on: July 27, 2014, 11:55:27 AM »

How do Orthodox Christians look at the city of Jerusalem ? What does the city of Jerusalem represent for Orthodox Christians ?
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 07:03:40 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 11:07:55 PM »

The city of Jerusalem is no longer a physical city that one can venerate (and frankly, I feel it is not really worthy of veneration given its poor state today), but rather, the city of heavenly Jerusalem is that which resides in our hearts.  True Jerusalem is that of the paradise one lives as a Christian.

"Do good in Your good pleasure to Zion;
Build the walls of Jerusalem." (Psalm 51)

When I think of these two words, Zion and Jerusalem, I think of my soul and heart.  Zion and Jerusalem represents the Church and its altar.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 11:39:15 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 11:42:01 PM »

The city of Jerusalem is no longer a physical city that one can venerate (and frankly, I feel it is not really worthy of veneration given its poor state today), but rather, the city of heavenly Jerusalem is that which resides in our hearts.  True Jerusalem is that of the paradise one lives as a Christian.

"Do good in Your good pleasure to Zion;
Build the walls of Jerusalem." (Psalm 51)

When I think of these two words, Zion and Jerusalem, I think of my soul and heart.  Zion and Jerusalem represents the Church and its altar.
Is it not venerable in that its Church is regarded as the Mother of Churches?
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 11:47:41 PM »

It sure does not act like the Mother of Churches anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 12:14:50 AM »

It sure does not act like the Mother of Churches anymore.
I don't disagree, but the fact that it is still stands. One kisses the hand of an impious priest because of the dignity of his office. The Church of Jerusalem's honor as the mother of churches does not disappear because of the actions of one of its bishops.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 12:33:06 AM »

It sure does not act like the Mother of Churches anymore.

How so?

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 10:52:25 AM »

What about the fact that the city of Jerusalem is where the Lord Jesus Christ lived his last days, died there and rose from the dead...etc. What about the fact that Jesus loved the city of Jerusalem. ??

Surely, I agree with what was said that we don't need to focus on the physical Jerusalem and forget that it is a shadow for the heavenly Jerusalem.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 11:03:38 AM »

There is a very close connection to Jerusalem to all of Christianity, Orthodoxy included. It is home to some of our most cherished churches and objects of veneration. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 11:14:35 AM »

There is a very close connection to Jerusalem to all of Christianity, Orthodoxy included. It is home to some of our most cherished churches and objects of veneration. 

This.  It is a place, but there are many Holy things there worth venerating.  I don't think Jerusalem itself is Holy, as in I wouldn't venerate the toilet seats in the Jerusalem 7-11, but there are Holy places there.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 11:35:44 AM »

There is a very close connection to Jerusalem to all of Christianity, Orthodoxy included. It is home to some of our most cherished churches and objects of veneration. 

This.  It is a place, but there are many Holy things there worth venerating.  I don't think Jerusalem itself is Holy, as in I wouldn't venerate the toilet seats in the Jerusalem 7-11, but there are Holy places there.

We work very hard to keep those clean for your veneration.     
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 02:11:36 PM »

It sure does not act like the Mother of Churches anymore.

How so?



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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 02:30:48 PM »

It's like most other cities, except they arbitrarily (for mostly decent reasons) decided it should have some special significance relating to earthly matters.
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