Recently on another forum I saw a reference again to a supposed trial by St. John Chrysostom, of a priest who had children after his ordination. The claim is that this supports the Vatican's contention that although married men were ordained, they never had relations with their wives. Anyone have any info on this "trial?"
I'd love to see said reference; I wonder if it's either a forgery or a statement out of context (e.g. the trial was for having a child with someone other than their wife out of wedlock).
Yes, that is exactly what I am expecting, which is probably why the citation isn't forthcoming. I'm banned from CAF from asking (I asked too many embarassing questions, and gave too many uncomfortable answers).
I've seen some claims of this by members of the Latin Church but it certainly isn't the official position of the Catholic Church.
Fr. Deacon Lance
This seems to be increasingly a point made in discussions on this issue: that the Orthodox are the innovators by letting the priests remain with their wives, not the Vatican for mandating celibacy. Definitely a problem, so it solved by saying that the priests remained "in perfect continence." (btw, there are some Orthodox who like this, e.g. the hagiography of St. John of Kronstadt).
This particular poster that I saw, however, brought up something uncomfortable (he is a Latin btw, and fully supportive of the manadated celibacy it seems): why do the restored deacons in the Latin rite get to have relations with their wives (I don't know how he has proved that they do