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Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« on: February 23, 2009, 01:21:04 PM »
At a friend's sleepover more than a year ago, 14-year-old Phillip Swartley pocketed change from unlocked vehicles in the neighborhood to buy chips and soft drinks. The cops caught him.

There was no need for an attorney, said Phillip's mother, Amy Swartley, who thought at most, the judge would slap her son with a fine or community service.

But she was shocked to find her eighth-grader handcuffed and shackled in the courtroom and sentenced to a youth detention center. Then, he was shipped to a boarding school for troubled teens for nine months.

"Yes, my son made a mistake, but I didn't think he was going to be taken away from me," said Swartley, a 41-year-old single mother raising two boys in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.

CNN does not usually identify minors accused of crimes. But Swartley and others agreed to be named to bring public attention to the issue.

As scandals from Wall Street to Washington roil the public trust, the justice system in Luzerne County, in the heart of Pennsylvania's struggling coal country, has also fallen prey to corruption. The county has been rocked by a kickback scandal involving two elected judges who essentially jailed kids for cash. Many of the children had appeared before judges without a lawyer.

The nonprofit Juvenile Law Center in Philadelphia said Phillip is one of at least 5,000 children over the past five years who appeared before former Luzerne County President Judge Mark Ciavarella...

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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 03:21:07 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 04:02:47 PM »
This is scary!!

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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 04:12:52 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Funny...I actually located my copy of 1984 yesterday for a re-read.
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 04:23:47 PM »
Nothing like a little thoughtcrime to brighten an afternoon.   ::)

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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 07:15:27 AM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 08:33:19 AM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).

Yes. Or he could be removed if ever convicted of a crime in this instance.
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 09:32:46 AM »
What sort of people would do this sort of thing? To children?
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 11:19:19 AM »
What sort of people would do this sort of thing? To children?

Greedy, evil people with no moral character. This is what happens when you replace God with money!

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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 12:00:59 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
Oh, you think so?  In Chicago, they are elected, but in for life-or until the Feds get them (go Fitzgerald!).  Judge who thinks he can do what he wants?  Isn't that redundant?

Btw, when I was in Cook County, there was a lot of talk about how much the county gets for every prisoner.  In other words, the inmates had figured/found out the economic incentives for the powers that be to keep them there.  Sort of like Murphy's offer to take the Gitmo boys: he left out the part that the prisons would have to be built (his district doesn't have the facilities) nor the high security facilities in all of PA.  Jobs, jobs, jobs (remember "Roger and Me?").
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 12:28:17 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
Oh, you think so?  In Chicago, they are elected, but in for life-or until the Feds get them (go Fitzgerald!).  Judge who thinks he can do what he wants?  Isn't that redundant?
Oh, we were talking about Chicago? My bad. I thought the topic's title said "Pennsylvania."
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 12:34:53 PM »
The accused judges may have been harsh on juveniles but did show understanding to a drug dealer http://www.timesleader.com/news/hottopics/judges/_rsquo_91_case_casting_shadows_on_today_02-15-2009.html   Luzerne County Pa. has always been corrupt but innocent people were not ususally manipulated in the past. This is an added level of degenerate cruelty.
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 12:54:08 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
Oh, you think so?  In Chicago, they are elected, but in for life-or until the Feds get them (go Fitzgerald!).  Judge who thinks he can do what he wants?  Isn't that redundant?
Oh, we were talking about Chicago? My bad. I thought the topic's title said "Pennsylvania."
Oh, yes, corruption is SOOO different in PA.  My bad.  I'd say more, but we are moderated.
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 01:00:23 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
Oh, you think so?  In Chicago, they are elected, but in for life-or until the Feds get them (go Fitzgerald!).  Judge who thinks he can do what he wants?  Isn't that redundant?
Oh, we were talking about Chicago? My bad. I thought the topic's title said "Pennsylvania."
Oh, yes, corruption is SOOO different in PA.  My bad.  I'd say more, but we are moderated.
Everyone I've known from Chicago (including several family members) sees corruption everywhere they look. What I'm saying is that I think you are biased based on your experience with your politicians. You have become jaded, and therefore are unable to imagine that things are different anywhere else. So when you say such things, my first response is to question your objectivity. It's the reputation you've built up.
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 02:10:23 PM »
What sort of people would do this sort of thing? To children?

People that sniffed the Monopoly money too much when they were themselves children? ;)
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Re: Pennsylvania Rocked By 'Jailing Kids For Cash' Scandal
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2009, 02:21:52 PM »
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Ciavarvella sent 15-year-old Hillary Transue to a wilderness camp for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page.

So much for the First Amendment.... ::) Anybody else thinking this is too close to George Orwell's 1984? ;)
Just a judge who apparently thinks he can do what he wants. If people are this upset with him, he'll lose the next election for sure (am I correct that PA judges are elected?).
Oh, you think so?  In Chicago, they are elected, but in for life-or until the Feds get them (go Fitzgerald!).  Judge who thinks he can do what he wants?  Isn't that redundant?
Oh, we were talking about Chicago? My bad. I thought the topic's title said "Pennsylvania."
Oh, yes, corruption is SOOO different in PA.  My bad.  I'd say more, but we are moderated.
Everyone I've known from Chicago (including several family members) sees corruption everywhere they look. What I'm saying is that I think you are biased based on your experience with your politicians. You have become jaded, and therefore are unable to imagine that things are different anywhere else. So when you say such things, my first response is to question your objectivity. It's the reputation you've built up.
OK, Voltaire.  To those who have ears...
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