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Lenten Service Book
« on: February 14, 2009, 02:06:18 AM »
Hello!

Can anyone reccomend a good service book that includes the Lenten services? (Compline, Pre-Sanctified Liturgy, Vespers, etc.) I'm looking for the "pew edition" and one that goes along with GOA style services. (Must be in English. I cannot read/speak Greek.)

They didn't have anything at the Church bookstore, and I didn't see anything on the Orthodox Marketplace or on Holy Cross' website.  :-\

Thanks!
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 08:57:11 AM »
Hello!

Can anyone reccomend a good service book that includes the Lenten services? (Compline, Pre-Sanctified Liturgy, Vespers, etc.) I'm looking for the "pew edition" and one that goes along with GOA style services. (Must be in English. I cannot read/speak Greek.)

They didn't have anything at the Church bookstore, and I didn't see anything on the Orthodox Marketplace or on Holy Cross' website.  :-\

Thanks!

The usual book I've seen is "The Lenten Triodion" by Kallistos Ware.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenten-Triodion-Mother-Maria/dp/1878997513/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234616001&sr=1-1

I came across some commentaries too:
http://www.amazon.com/Synaxarion-Lenten-Triodion-Pentecostarion-Orthodox/dp/0964347830/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234616001&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Lenten-Covenant-Devotional-Commentary-Triodion/dp/B000AY74MS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234616001&sr=1-6
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 09:09:58 AM »
Hello!

Can anyone reccomend a good service book that includes the Lenten services? (Compline, Pre-Sanctified Liturgy, Vespers, etc.) I'm looking for the "pew edition" and one that goes along with GOA style services. (Must be in English. I cannot read/speak Greek.)

They didn't have anything at the Church bookstore, and I didn't see anything on the Orthodox Marketplace or on Holy Cross' website.  :-\

Thanks!

Unfortunately you'll be hard-pressed to find all the books in a centralized location; heck, you'll be hard-pressed to find all the books in one volume.
The major Lenten (pre-Holy Week) services are: 3rd Saturday of Souls, Great Compline, Presanctified Liturgy, and Salutations/Akathist.  Each one has its own book.  PM me, and I'll give you a few locations to call and find them...
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 09:10:42 AM »
The Lenten Triodion is useful, but by no means exhaustive or complete. It assumes a certain knowledge of the structure of a lenten service, which can be complex. It is also geared towards Slavic usage, though there is some commentary on Greek liturgical variations.
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 02:17:31 PM »
This is all very upsetting. So I'm just supposed to sit in the pew and not be able to follow along? My parish still uses a fair amount of Greek in the Liturgy, and for services outside of the Liturgy they use even MORE Greek.

I hate to put it in these terms, but if I can't understand what is going on, what meaning is the service supposed to hold for me? I mean, am I supposed to just bring my chotki and say the Jesus Prayer the entire time?  :'(
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 04:23:12 PM »
I can well understand your frustration, handmaiden. I am lucky in my parish that there is a person who compiles bilingual service books for the congregation of liturgy, vigils for feasts, and some of the lenten and Holy Week services. Believe me, it's a huge job.
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 03:16:02 PM »
This is all very upsetting. So I'm just supposed to sit in the pew and not be able to follow along? My parish still uses a fair amount of Greek in the Liturgy, and for services outside of the Liturgy they use even MORE Greek.

I hate to put it in these terms, but if I can't understand what is going on, what meaning is the service supposed to hold for me? I mean, am I supposed to just bring my chotki and say the Jesus Prayer the entire time?  :'(

What gives you the impression that you can't follow along?  There are books - you asked, though, if there's A BOOK, and that answer is no.  Check your PM inbox.
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 03:29:07 PM »
What gives you the impression that you can't follow along?  There are books - you asked, though, if there's A BOOK, and that answer is no.  Check your PM inbox.

I'm sorry if I was unclear. I was having difficulty locating a book or books with the services. I got your PM. Thanks again for your help!
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Re: Lenten Service Book
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 02:26:47 PM »
tRY THIS LINK:  http://www.orthodoxmarketplace.com/worship-and-liturgy-c-445.html

Holy Week - Easter Service Book, by Fr. George Papadeas
This is the first complete HOLY WEEK-EASTER Book ever published. Original Greek text with the modern English Translation on the opposite page. All paragraphs are in similar places for both Languages, making it easy to follow, no matter in which language the Services are held. The text is printed in black, while the directions are in red ink. Very readable and easy to follow. There is no guesswork.

Comments over the years have been favorable. To quote the Official Newsletter of the Retired Greek Orthodox Clergy of America: "This book has saved Holy Week for our Orthodox Churches in America."
The unworthy hierodeacon, Vasyl