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« on: February 11, 2009, 06:26:06 PM »

Hi All,

I live in Cornwall and go to a small Orthodox Church where we have a handfull of congregation. we are looking for an Ison for our singers. Any ideas where we can get one from
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 06:31:37 PM »

Do you mean an isonkrates, a person who holds the drone note?  Why not train one of your current changers to do so?  But do not be deceived, this is a very hard thing to do.  It requires discipline and the melody can suffer horribly if the right ison is not given.  good luck in your endeavour.

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 06:40:43 PM »

hi,

thanks for the welcome. we would love to train one of our chanters,but there are only 3 of us and two are woman so its really hard as we are all still learning.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 06:45:03 PM »

Well, the poster here known as kelfar could sell you an ison machine.   Grin
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 06:53:39 PM »

Thanks Elisha,

I'll send him a message

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 10:00:43 PM »

Well, the poster here known as kelfar could sell you an ison machine.   Grin

No, no, no, don't do that.  Ison machines are terrible and sound so artificial!  A human ison is so much more desirable.

As far as your chanters go, if you have three chanters and two of them women, the male can supply the ison while the two female chanters provide the melody.  It can really be quite sonorous.  I understand that you are still learning, but Byzantine chant without an ison sounds, quite frankly, bad.  I'd recommend that you learn holistically.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 10:56:46 PM »

I found this interesting article.  It's a lot to read through, and you need knowledge of music theory to get through part of it, but it might helpful:  http://www.scribd.com/doc/4497985/BYZANTINE-Musical-SystemeStanley-Takis
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 11:33:44 PM »

Well, the poster here known as kelfar could sell you an ison machine.   Grin

No, no, no, don't do that.  Ison machines are terrible and sound so artificial!  A human ison is so much more desirable.

As far as your chanters go, if you have three chanters and two of them women, the male can supply the ison while the two female chanters provide the melody.  It can really be quite sonorous.  I understand that you are still learning, but Byzantine chant without an ison sounds, quite frankly, bad.  I'd recommend that you learn holistically.

Well, you know I complete agree with you here.  Just having a little fun before.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 08:29:41 PM »

But do not be deceived, this is a very hard thing to do.  It requires discipline and the melody can suffer horribly if the right ison is not given.  good luck in your endeavour

Haha tell me about it. I am getting better at doing ison though but I could still use some work.

I agree also that you should definitely not get an ison machine! Do you think that chanters 100 years ago used a machine to do ison? Though you only have three chanters, someone should be able to do ison. At my parish, even if there are just two chanters, one chants and the other will hold ison.
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