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Welcome on board Ivanov, There are many of us that come from the RCC background, But don't live in the past and hold grudges, Let go, move on and learn from your experiences, only then will you be able to grow spiritually in Holy Orthodoxy. Peace be with you. Thank you for your response, Biro. I was asked by another post-er what made me "look East"... so I answered, albeit analogously, using MY experience (context) of 60 years living in the West in order to emphasize that the spiritual wounds, (some mortal) and grave scandal and error perpetuated by those who call themselves 'shepherds' in the Western Roman universe, is a kind of violence (spiritual genocide) as was/is the Western bloodletting in the MidEast...one spiritual, the other physical. The harm done by the innovators and heterodoctors cannot be overstated. I was in no way implying innocence on the part of the 'East'... which had nothing to do with the analogy. I know, as I'm sure you do, that "the WHOLE world lies under the sway of the wicked one." I John 5:19 . I can only speak from my lived context. I "looked East" with the heart of a refugee, and God surprised me with joy and the prospect of a true homecoming as the Ancient New Testament Church came into view. When you have believed over 25 years that your conversion to the "Roman Catholic" church, outside of which there is no salvation (ie. the Roman dogma "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus") was THE homecoming, the surprise of learning otherwise takes on a whole new life-shaking impact.
I could have written more clearly, so please forgive any misunderstanding I may have caused on your part. If I am guilty of anger or a hidden prejudice, then I ask God's forgiveness... here and now. We must look to one another's edification. Each of us has gathered many wounds and 'shoulder-chips' along the way. May God have mercy on us both! I believe He will...
Sincerely yours, in Christ The Lord,
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Welcome on board Ivanov, There are many of us that come from the RCC background, But don't live in the past and hold grudges, Let go, move on and learn from your experiences, only then will you be able to grow spiritually in Holy Orthodoxy. Peace be with you. Thank you for your response, Biro. I was asked by another post-er what made me "look East"... so I answered, albeit analogously, using MY experience (context) of 60 years living in the West in order to emphasize that the spiritual wounds, (some mortal) and grave scandal and error perpetuated by those who call themselves 'shepherds' in the Western Roman universe, is a kind of violence (spiritual genocide) as was/is the Western bloodletting in the MidEast...one spiritual, the other physical. The harm done by the innovators and heterodoctors cannot be overstated. I was in no way implying innocence on the part of the 'East'... which had nothing to do with the analogy. I know, as I'm sure you do, that "the WHOLE world lies under the sway of the wicked one." I John 5:19 . I can only speak from my lived context. I "looked East" with the heart of a refugee, and God surprised me with joy and the prospect of a true homecoming as the Ancient New Testament Church came into view. When you have believed over 25 years that your conversion to the "Roman Catholic" church, outside of which there is no salvation (ie. the Roman dogma "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus") was THE homecoming, the surprise of learning otherwise takes on a whole new life-shaking impact.
I could have written more clearly, so please forgive any misunderstanding I may have caused on your part. If I am guilty of anger or a hidden prejudice, then I ask God's forgiveness... here and now. We must look to one another's edification. Each of us has gathered many wounds and 'shoulder-chips' along the way. May God have mercy on us both! I believe He will...
Sincerely yours, in Christ The Lord,
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Yes. Let us pray and fight for the reorienting of the Carolingian hijacked Church (and now more so with other worldly/demonic forces) which in spite of that still at times had wonderful fruits of the spirit in liturature, music, and art, and martyrs for the faith and for the most part orthodox and devout saints. It is time for us to "Withstand him (Peter) to his face, because he is to be blamed." But as Paul was stern he was loving and did so for righteousness sake and for the sake Peter and his flock. Not to point a finger. For the longest time in the West, that was the only Apostolic Church there was. I doubt grace left it entirely for the sake of the faithful, but its in a very bad way now. Good thing the Orthodox Catholic church is readily available these days to set it straight, or perhaps embrace those who from it truly seek with discerning minds and open hearts.
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I am going to be made a catechumen very soon. I come from a Roman Catholic background with very traditional and Tridentine leanings. I originally was brought up in a church that had formed a schism within the Catholic Church after Vatican II. They also celebrated the Latin Mass. This is what I grew up with. They believe all post-Vatican II popes as not true popes. I came into full communion with the Catholic Church a couple of months before I got married. I ended up meeting someone at the new church I was attending. He was very dissatisfied with contemporary Catholicism as was I. We decided to research and find the truth. We bounced around quite a bit looking into anything from the Charismatic movement, back to the traditional movement, and finally to Byzantine Catholicism. We got very well acquainted with Eastern spirituality and felt very much at home. We would spend hours talking with the priest. He is actually the one that got me to start questioning Catholicism believe it or not. He was Catholic, but did not believe in the papacy, purgatory, original sin, etc, etc, etc. I asked myself on numerous occasions, "why is he not Orthodox?". I started my quest into Orthodoxy after spending some time within Eastern Catholicism. I have been researching off and on for a couple of years and very intensely of the last 8 months or so. I sincerely ask that you all keep me in your prayers on this journey.
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« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2012, 07:44:25 AM » |
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I am going to be made a catechumen very soon. I come from a Roman Catholic background with very traditional and Tridentine leanings. I originally was brought up in a church that had formed a schism within the Catholic Church after Vatican II. They also celebrated the Latin Mass. This is what I grew up with. They believe all post-Vatican II popes as not true popes. I came into full communion with the Catholic Church a couple of months before I got married. I ended up meeting someone at the new church I was attending. He was very dissatisfied with contemporary Catholicism as was I. We decided to research and find the truth. We bounced around quite a bit looking into anything from the Charismatic movement, back to the traditional movement, and finally to Byzantine Catholicism. We got very well acquainted with Eastern spirituality and felt very much at home. We would spend hours talking with the priest. He is actually the one that got me to start questioning Catholicism believe it or not. He was Catholic, but did not believe in the papacy, purgatory, original sin, etc, etc, etc. I asked myself on numerous occasions, "why is he not Orthodox?". I started my quest into Orthodoxy after spending some time within Eastern Catholicism. I have been researching off and on for a couple of years and very intensely of the last 8 months or so. I sincerely ask that you all keep me in your prayers on this journey.
Χριστος Ανεστη Welcome to The OC forum Greek-yogurt. I will pray for your Journey, I am also a catechumen and it seems we have made a very similar journey, as in I come from the tradition Catholic background. Peace in Christ JR
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I was baptised the 24th of June 2011, on the birth of St John the Baptist feast day. I was recieved in a bulgarian local church, being baptised by a russian priest from the Archdiocese of Russian Orthodox Churches in Western Europe(very canonical situation, indeed). My family originaly comes from Romania, an orthodox mother and jew from Romania father. I was not baptised as a baby. I had to research myself, between the Vatican Church and the Catholic Church, and chose the Catholic Church. So i guess i'm a convert.
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« Reply #142 on: May 15, 2012, 07:28:05 AM » |
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Yes. Let us pray and fight for the reorienting of the Carolingian hijacked Church (and now more so with other worldly/demonic forces) which in spite of that still at times had wonderful fruits of the spirit in liturature, music, and art, and martyrs for the faith and for the most part orthodox and devout saints. It is time for us to "Withstand him (Peter) to his face, because he is to be blamed." But as Paul was stern he was loving and did so for righteousness sake and for the sake Peter and his flock. Not to point a finger.
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« Reply #143 on: May 15, 2012, 07:32:27 AM » |
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I am going to be made a catechumen very soon. I come from a Roman Catholic background with very traditional and Tridentine leanings. I originally was brought up in a church that had formed a schism within the Catholic Church after Vatican II. They also celebrated the Latin Mass. This is what I grew up with. They believe all post-Vatican II popes as not true popes. I came into full communion with the Catholic Church a couple of months before I got married. I ended up meeting someone at the new church I was attending. He was very dissatisfied with contemporary Catholicism as was I. We decided to research and find the truth. We bounced around quite a bit looking into anything from the Charismatic movement, back to the traditional movement, and finally to Byzantine Catholicism. We got very well acquainted with Eastern spirituality and felt very much at home. We would spend hours talking with the priest. He is actually the one that got me to start questioning Catholicism believe it or not. He was Catholic, but did not believe in the papacy, purgatory, original sin, etc, etc, etc. I asked myself on numerous occasions, "why is he not Orthodox?". I started my quest into Orthodoxy after spending some time within Eastern Catholicism. I have been researching off and on for a couple of years and very intensely of the last 8 months or so. I sincerely ask that you all keep me in your prayers on this journey.
Χριστος Ανεστη Welcome to The OC forum Greek-yogurt. I will pray for your Journey, I am also a catechumen and it seems we have made a very similar journey, as in I come from the tradition Catholic background. Peace in Christ JR It's interesting how many traditional Catholics look East -- that is to say, on OCnet I see a lot of signs of traditional Catholics looking East. There's another forum a participate on, which is for traditional Catholics but it's about as anti-Orthodox as you can get. 
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« Reply #145 on: May 16, 2012, 08:14:19 PM » |
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Slava lui Dumnezeu pentru toate!
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Slava lui Dumnezeu pentru toate!
Does that mean "Glory to the Lord for all things"? I think it means "I want a can of hash and a cup of joe."
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Slava lui Dumnezeu pentru toate!
Does that mean "Glory to the Lord for all things"? I think it means "I want a can of hash and a cup of joe."  Yes William; that is what it means.
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« Reply #148 on: October 13, 2012, 07:45:00 PM » |
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Hello,
I am a former Roman Catholic who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy two months ago. I had been pondering over the issue for about ten years and took the plunge only recently.
What made me join Orthodoxy? It is not very clear. A sense that Orthodoxy has kept the greatest continuity with Ancient Christianity.
Another reason (but not a good one): I was appalled by Benedict XVI's encyclical Caritas in Veritate. But this happened to be a strong argument in favour of a conversion.
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« Reply #149 on: October 14, 2012, 06:24:34 AM » |
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Hello,
I am a former Roman Catholic who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy two months ago. I had been pondering over the issue for about ten years and took the plunge only recently.
What made me join Orthodoxy? It is not very clear. A sense that Orthodoxy has kept the greatest continuity with Ancient Christianity.
Another reason (but not a good one): I was appalled by Benedict XVI's encyclical Caritas in Veritate. But this happened to be a strong argument in favour of a conversion.
Why are you appalled with the Benedict XVI's encyclical Caritas in Veritate?
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« Reply #150 on: October 14, 2012, 03:38:29 PM » |
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I was appalled at his stance on globalization (emphasis mine): « 67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity. To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good, and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization[149]. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations. » http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html
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Hi, My Name was Bassam mohamad farouk Haddad, I was Born in Lebanon 27/03/1966 as a Muslim, my mother was christian Orthodox. I am one of 8 brothers and sisters 3 of us been to the same mother and the rest half brothers and sisters, my Father was abusive, an alcoholic, a womanizer and used to bash my mother, I also was afraid of him. My Mother was kicked out several times and ended living my her mother brother and sisters, she would take us to the church sometimes and I was very fond of the virgin Mary and Jesus and the cross, there is a little cave near my uncles house and I use to visit it with my untie and she said If I believe in god the coins will stick to the icons and she would try and they wouldn't stick, then I tried and they stuck, she hit me in a fun way just playing around around. A lot of things happened to me in Lebanon including sin even though I was 6 or so and the coin will not sick for me after that  My dad died when I was 7 and in Lebanon the women dont have rights the their children especially in Islam even if the father passes away. Well my dad passed away in an accident and my dads brothers came looking for us me first as they take the children away from the mother when they turn 7 years old but my mother told them to let me finish school and they can have all 3 of us, they agreed, in that time my mother made up passports in her maiden name, apparently a judge knew my dad and didnt like the way he was and let my mother go ahead with papers/passports and she took of to Australia with us. we arrived in Australia in 1974 were sin continued to eat away at me but I always prayed for Jesus to take me to heaven, my sin grew so bad and rapidly it was frightening, at the age of 19 I met a Greek girl she was 21 at the time and we fell in love but in sin, and I told her about my pas sins, she looked at me and walked away got about 30 meters from me and came back and she said will you ever go back to you sinful ways and I said no, she kissed me and said I cant leave you and want to help you, we got married in 1990 after I got baptized in the Greek orthodox church and changed my name to Vasilios Basil Daaboul. when my wifes grandmother passed away I went into depression knowing is my turn one day and needed help from our church, I went to confession regularly and in that time I met my dads brother for the first time and spoke with my half siblings for the first time in 20 years I again got confused frightened and continued going to confession about my confusion in religion but never doubted my love for Christianity but just confused all the same, I ended up going to Jerusalem were we stayed one night in Telaviv , we had no were else to stay after that night, we had our 2 year old son Dimitri with us and we made our way to Jafa gate were we met a deacon named farther arristovolelas , not sure of the spelling, he gave us his room next to mt Golgotha and we seen many great wonders, all the holy sites and I broke down inside Christs tomb. Wen it was time to leave for Greece the deacon asked if we can drop of a letter in Katterini in Greece to his sister and my wife happily agreed, when we got to Greece my wife went to the deacons sisters house to deliver the letter and was blown away to find the deacons sister is one of her relatives we went to Jerusalem with faith and our god Jesus Christ puts us with Family <3 I came back to Australia a new person and sadly drifted away into sin, today I continue to fight and walk and to confession holy communion , Last year I ended up going to Lebanon and met my Brothers and sisters for the first time in 38 years, I broke down and cried only with the younger of my two older sisters, yes they are Muslim and I made it clear to them we will not speak about religion although my older sister tried, I just walked away, I love them and continue to speak to them, I even took my wife to meet them this year, but in Christ I live and die whether I go to heaven or not its up to our lord Jesus Christ, I have learned a lot about Islam and was shocked to know how it came to be and sad for my Brothers sisters cousins, uncles all of them but Ive never tried talking to them about my faith, I know it wont go down well. I cant thank Jesus Christ enough for the Angel I married to were her faith is strong and her love for me and our two boys Dimitri and Christo is just amazing, my two older boys are still alter boys at the age of 19 and 16. I continue to fall and get back up but Im finding more strength to stay away from sin these days and fighting the good fight. I have seen many wonders and seen things I dont want to speak about, I have so much more to tell and can take up days to wright about them but I wont, I hope you enjoy reading this and this is the first time I shared it publicly . My New Name since meeting my Brothers and sisters is Vasilios Bassam Haddad I kept my baptized name and my previosn name Bassam Haddad as my middle and last name. God Bless
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Very powerful testimony! Thank you for sharing it, Vasilios! (or do you prefer Bassam?) May God continue to guide you. There are many times when our conversions create tension with our families (it happened to me too, between me and my father and grandmother), but through continuing to love them and trying to be good examples of our faith without being harsh toward their belief, we might with much patience see good results. It has been over a year now since I began attending the Coptic Orthodox Church, but my father has recently said "maybe" to going to liturgy sometime...I know it still means "no" (this is one of those things that a son just knows from years of being told "maybe" as a child, when it always meant "no"  ), but at least it's not saying "no", so it is a little softer than before when he would yell and tell me that I don't know what I'm doing, and that the Church is stupid, and all manner of terrible things. I thank God for even this little bit of improvement, and I pray that you will experience even better with your own family.
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HI dzheremi Vasilios Or Basil is Fine, my mum and imidiate family still call me Bassam but im used to it. Im afraid Im not very good at examples but Today Im better than yesterday and learning everyday 
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Hi, My Name was Bassam mohamad farouk Haddad, I was Born in Lebanon 27/03/1966 as a Muslim, my mother was christian Orthodox. I am one of 8 brothers and sisters 3 of us been to the same mother and the rest half brothers and sisters, my Father was abusive, an alcoholic, a womanizer and used to bash my mother, I also was afraid of him. My Mother was kicked out several times and ended living my her mother brother and sisters, she would take us to the church sometimes and I was very fond of the virgin Mary and Jesus and the cross, there is a little cave near my uncles house and I use to visit it with my untie and she said If I believe in god the coins will stick to the icons and she would try and they wouldn't stick, then I tried and they stuck, she hit me in a fun way just playing around around. A lot of things happened to me in Lebanon including sin even though I was 6 or so and the coin will not sick for me after that  My dad died when I was 7 and in Lebanon the women dont have rights the their children especially in Islam even if the father passes away. Well my dad passed away in an accident and my dads brothers came looking for us me first as they take the children away from the mother when they turn 7 years old but my mother told them to let me finish school and they can have all 3 of us, they agreed, in that time my mother made up passports in her maiden name, apparently a judge knew my dad and didnt like the way he was and let my mother go ahead with papers/passports and she took of to Australia with us. we arrived in Australia in 1974 were sin continued to eat away at me but I always prayed for Jesus to take me to heaven, my sin grew so bad and rapidly it was frightening, at the age of 19 I met a Greek girl she was 21 at the time and we fell in love but in sin, and I told her about my pas sins, she looked at me and walked away got about 30 meters from me and came back and she said will you ever go back to you sinful ways and I said no, she kissed me and said I cant leave you and want to help you, we got married in 1990 after I got baptized in the Greek orthodox church and changed my name to Vasilios Basil Daaboul. when my wifes grandmother passed away I went into depression knowing is my turn one day and needed help from our church, I went to confession regularly and in that time I met my dads brother for the first time and spoke with my half siblings for the first time in 20 years I again got confused frightened and continued going to confession about my confusion in religion but never doubted my love for Christianity but just confused all the same, I ended up going to Jerusalem were we stayed one night in Telaviv , we had no were else to stay after that night, we had our 2 year old son Dimitri with us and we made our way to Jafa gate were we met a deacon named farther arristovolelas , not sure of the spelling, he gave us his room next to mt Golgotha and we seen many great wonders, all the holy sites and I broke down inside Christs tomb. Wen it was time to leave for Greece the deacon asked if we can drop of a letter in Katterini in Greece to his sister and my wife happily agreed, when we got to Greece my wife went to the deacons sisters house to deliver the letter and was blown away to find the deacons sister is one of her relatives we went to Jerusalem with faith and our god Jesus Christ puts us with Family <3 I came back to Australia a new person and sadly drifted away into sin, today I continue to fight and walk and to confession holy communion , Last year I ended up going to Lebanon and met my Brothers and sisters for the first time in 38 years, I broke down and cried only with the younger of my two older sisters, yes they are Muslim and I made it clear to them we will not speak about religion although my older sister tried, I just walked away, I love them and continue to speak to them, I even took my wife to meet them this year, but in Christ I live and die whether I go to heaven or not its up to our lord Jesus Christ, I have learned a lot about Islam and was shocked to know how it came to be and sad for my Brothers sisters cousins, uncles all of them but Ive never tried talking to them about my faith, I know it wont go down well. I cant thank Jesus Christ enough for the Angel I married to were her faith is strong and her love for me and our two boys Dimitri and Christo is just amazing, my two older boys are still alter boys at the age of 19 and 16. I continue to fall and get back up but Im finding more strength to stay away from sin these days and fighting the good fight. I have seen many wonders and seen things I dont want to speak about, I have so much more to tell and can take up days to wright about them but I wont, I hope you enjoy reading this and this is the first time I shared it publicly . My New Name since meeting my Brothers and sisters is Vasilios Bassam Haddad I kept my baptized name and my previosn name Bassam Haddad as my middle and last name. God Bless Vasilios Bassam Haddad your testimony is an inspiration to us all. Thank you for sharing and may God bless and guide you always. JR
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Hi everyone! I'm new on this site and also Newly Illumined Orthodox. I was Chrismated this last weekend along my husband and children. I had been RC for 35 years and always felt there was something wrong. Since I was a little child, and then a young Catechist, I had many questions that were always replied with a slap from my Catholic priest. He was Spanish and apparently children are not allowed to ask questions about God in his country. I'd always ask why the Pope was infalible, why the Filioque, where in the Bible (or apocrypha) was the Immaculate Conception, why the schism, etc. He would tell me that I should believe as children do, without questions...but even since I was a child, I had questions  My husband and became pregnant before we married, and having studied at a Roman Catholic University, that made us sinners. Soon after we married by the civil law, we tried to have our "wedding" by the church, but I was yelled at and called a concubine at the priest's office. My husband was in active duty (US Army) so we traveled a lot and never got the chance to settle down in a place. I tried to visit different churches, but it never felt right. In a desperate attempt for belonging I let Jehova Witnesses into my house...big mistake! My mind and heart were Orthodox, but I didn't know yet. They came to teach me and left confused and angry at me because I spoke the "devil's lies" and was trying to "weaken" their faith. When somebody asked what religion we were, we would always reply, we are Jesus Christ followers so we are pre-denomination :-) I never knew this was actually one of the many descriptions of the EO church!  Two years ago my husband retired from active duty and we decided to settle. I love to read so I started reading about the local churches in order to find a spiritual home and somehow I came to an article about RC vs. EO and it all made sense. All my questions were finally answered in a way that made sense and was loyal to the scriptures, the tradition and to the HISTORY. We started visiting a Greek Orthodox parish, but it was hard to understand as 50%of the Liturgy is in Greek. A parishioner told us about a very small Russian church closer to our house and where all the services were in English. I contacted the fr. Nectarios and we found our spiritual home. His wife and him Chrismated us last weekend and they are also our Godparents. We feel like we have always belonged to the church...it was as if we were in a loooong trip and finally arrived home. The church is alive in us and is a constant part of our daily lives, I no longer feel the need to look for Jesus as I know I have found Him. My prayers are no longer a desperate call from a Father that seemed far away, but a personal conversation with the Father that called me unto being. I am home! Wilmary
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welcome, wilma and your family! may God bless u all. keep reading the Bible and praying and attending church and may God guide u. 
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I'm new on this site and also Newly Illumined Orthodox. I was Chrismated this last weekend along my husband and children. I had been RC for 35 years and always felt there was something wrong. Since I was a little child, and then a young Catechist, I had many questions that were always replied with a slap from my Catholic priest.
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I'm new on this site and also Newly Illumined Orthodox. I was Chrismated this last weekend along my husband and children. I had been RC for 35 years and always felt there was something wrong. Since I was a little child, and then a young Catechist, I had many questions that were always replied with a slap from my Catholic priest.
 Do you mean literally? Sadly, yes. Literally a slap on my face, sometimes ine on each side at the same time so I coulnt dodge. If he meant to hurt me he will respond to God.
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I'm new on this site and also Newly Illumined Orthodox. I was Chrismated this last weekend along my husband and children. I had been RC for 35 years and always felt there was something wrong. Since I was a little child, and then a young Catechist, I had many questions that were always replied with a slap from my Catholic priest.
 Do you mean literally? Sadly, yes. Literally a slap on my face, sometimes ine on each side at the same time so I coulnt dodge. If he meant to hurt me he will respond to God. Lord have mercy, truly shocking behavior !
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« Reply #162 on: December 14, 2012, 08:55:24 AM » |
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[/quote] Lord have mercy, truly shocking behavior ! [/quote] I was told by a Spanish lady, whos father used to be a RC priest who decided to break his vow after meeting his now wife, that it was a common way for Spanish RC priests to treat "noisy" children.  Maybe he thought I asked too much?  I'm a mother now and wouldn't let anyone do something like that to my children.
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