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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #180 on: May 05, 2014, 06:10:37 PM »
I guess I'm lucky, I have an easy choice: St. Cecilia

She was the saint name I chose for my RC confirmation. 
She is a pre-schism saint.
Her name is similar, phonetically, to mine.
She is, among other things, the patron saint of music/musicians (I sing, play instruments).
Her feast day is, coincidentally, on my birthday (November 22)

I can't see making another choice.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #181 on: May 07, 2014, 02:53:49 PM »
I am coming from a traditional Catholic background.

I am torn between St. Martin of Tours and St. Alexis Toth. I like St. Martin because he is a great model of love and holiness, and he is western. I like St. Alexis because my name is Alex, and he is a convert from Catholicism, even though he was Eastern already.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #182 on: May 07, 2014, 03:00:25 PM »
Who was your RC patron saint?
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #183 on: May 07, 2014, 03:01:40 PM »
Who was your RC patron saint?

Francis of Assisi. And I believe his baptismal saint was St. Martin of Tours.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #184 on: May 07, 2014, 03:03:38 PM »
And my mothers side of the family is from Wilkes Barre, as is St. Alexis Toth.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #185 on: May 07, 2014, 03:22:49 PM »
It seems like you can't go wrong either way. :)
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #186 on: May 07, 2014, 03:23:42 PM »
Would it be importing Roman Catholic novelty to take both? Alexis-Martin?

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #187 on: May 07, 2014, 03:45:22 PM »
I don't think there would be anything wrong about it. It's just not part of our tradition.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #188 on: May 07, 2014, 03:51:30 PM »
Who was your RC patron saint?

Francis of Assisi. And I believe his baptismal saint was St. Martin of Tours.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #189 on: May 07, 2014, 03:53:13 PM »
Would it be importing Roman Catholic novelty to take both? Alexis-Martin?

I suppose you could do that.  I didn't know that a double name was a particularly RC thing, though. 

If you don't mind my asking, is your name "Alex" or "Alexander"? 
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #190 on: May 07, 2014, 03:53:56 PM »
I guess I'm lucky, I have an easy choice: St. Cecilia

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I can't see making another choice.

I like her.  I like most of the popular Roman virgin-martyrs. 
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #191 on: May 07, 2014, 03:54:10 PM »
My wife had two names in that manner when she converted (Mary-Cecilia). Cecilia was the name given to her by her Roman Catholic family, and she took the name Mary (of Egypt) when she became Orthodox, but kept both names for purposes of church stuff, and even in her personal life.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #192 on: May 07, 2014, 03:54:25 PM »
Who was your RC patron saint?

Francis of Assisi. And I believe his baptismal saint was St. Martin of Tours.

I'm on to you... 

You were St. Martin's baptismal Saint?
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #193 on: May 07, 2014, 04:17:31 PM »
Would it be importing Roman Catholic novelty to take both? Alexis-Martin?

I suppose you could do that.  I didn't know that a double name was a particularly RC thing, though. 

If you don't mind my asking, is your name "Alex" or "Alexander"? 


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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #194 on: May 07, 2014, 07:04:25 PM »
Would it be importing Roman Catholic novelty to take both? Alexis-Martin?

Yes, it would. Orthodox have a single baptismal name, and a single patron saint appointed at baptism.

Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from having particular personal devotion to more than one saint, neither should it.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #195 on: May 09, 2014, 12:13:11 PM »
I think I have decided on St. Alexis Toth. His name is similar enough to mine, and he's a logical patron for my family, since my grandparents are from Wilkes-Barre. Even though he was already Eastern, he too was a convert from Catholicism.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #196 on: June 04, 2014, 11:29:15 AM »
Would it be importing Roman Catholic novelty to take both? Alexis-Martin?

Yes, it would. Orthodox have a single baptismal name, and a single patron saint appointed at baptism.

Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from having particular personal devotion to more than one saint, neither should it.

Oh, to have the space and money for an icon of each of the saints I have really grown to like haha.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #197 on: June 20, 2014, 09:25:28 AM »
If you are an Orthodox Christian, you ARE a Saint, so just keep the name you have, it is already a Saint's name. Strive to honor Christ and the Trinity with your name. It may not be in the "Saint's Hall of Fame" yet, but you never know.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #198 on: October 19, 2014, 01:28:55 AM »
Q: Not exactly on taking a "new" name, but if you have a first name that has multiple saints attached to it, do you get to discern among those who bear that name for your patron saint, or is there a rank to that?  For example, if your first name is John, you could have St. John Cassian, St. John Chrysostom, or St. John the Theologian to name three of many who have borne that name.  Would you pray about that with your priest beforehand, or is there one that always comes to be attached to that name?

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #199 on: October 19, 2014, 01:30:42 AM »
Q: Not exactly on taking a "new" name, but if you have a first name that has multiple saints attached to it, do you get to discern among those who bear that name for your patron saint, or is there a rank to that?  For example, if your first name is John, you could have St. John Cassian, St. John Chrysostom, or St. John the Theologian to name three of many who have borne that name.  Would you pray about that with your priest beforehand, or is there one that always comes to be attached to that name?


This was my case.  So I can only tell you what my Priest did.  He asked me to read about several of the possibilities, their lives, writings, etc.....and see if any resonated with me.

The most 'likely' Dionysius' did not at all resonate...so he suggested another.....

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #200 on: October 19, 2014, 01:44:15 AM »
Q: Not exactly on taking a "new" name, but if you have a first name that has multiple saints attached to it, do you get to discern among those who bear that name for your patron saint, or is there a rank to that?  For example, if your first name is John, you could have St. John Cassian, St. John Chrysostom, or St. John the Theologian to name three of many who have borne that name.  Would you pray about that with your priest beforehand, or is there one that always comes to be attached to that name?

There should be no "ranking" of saints of a particular name. As Denise said, read and reflect on the lives and writings of each of the saints who bear that name, and see which one appeals to you the most. An old Orthodox saying which very often holds true is "you don't pick a saint, he picks you".  :D
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #201 on: October 19, 2014, 06:43:43 AM »
Q: Not exactly on taking a "new" name, but if you have a first name that has multiple saints attached to it, do you get to discern among those who bear that name for your patron saint, or is there a rank to that?  For example, if your first name is John, you could have St. John Cassian, St. John Chrysostom, or St. John the Theologian to name three of many who have borne that name.  Would you pray about that with your priest beforehand, or is there one that always comes to be attached to that name?

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #202 on: October 19, 2014, 04:00:33 PM »
Q: Not exactly on taking a "new" name, but if you have a first name that has multiple saints attached to it, do you get to discern among those who bear that name for your patron saint, or is there a rank to that?  For example, if your first name is John, you could have St. John Cassian, St. John Chrysostom, or St. John the Theologian to name three of many who have borne that name.  Would you pray about that with your priest beforehand, or is there one that always comes to be attached to that name?

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And @LBK and @DeniseDenise, thanks for that -- that's what I've been sensing as I've thought about it.  For me, it's the name of Mark, and I'm very attracted to St. Mark the Ascetic, although I know very little of him yet.

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #203 on: May 23, 2015, 03:50:23 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #204 on: May 23, 2015, 03:51:52 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.

You can certainly take the name Noah.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #205 on: May 23, 2015, 03:54:42 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.

You can certainly take the name Noah.

Then why isn't he considered a Saint?
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #206 on: May 23, 2015, 03:57:59 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.

You can certainly take the name Noah.

Then why isn't he considered a Saint?

Righteous Noah is a saint.
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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #207 on: May 23, 2015, 04:03:53 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.

You can certainly take the name Noah.

Then why isn't he considered a Saint?
The Old Testament saints are generally referred to as "Righteous", e.g. "the Righteous Noah". These saints are commemorated on the Sunday of the Holy Forefathers, which is the second Sunday before Christmas (Dec 11-17). Noah is mentioned by name in the Vespers service "Come ye feast-lovers, let us extol with hymns the assembly of the forefathers, Adam, the first father, Enoch, Noah, and Melchizedek, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob..." (and possibly mentioned elsewhere).

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #208 on: May 23, 2015, 04:47:05 PM »
Is it presumptuous to just ask my priest to choose for me? I was given the birth name of "Noah," who isn't a saint. My middle is William, who is a Roman Catholic saint, but not Orthodox.

You can certainly take the name Noah.

Then why isn't he considered a Saint?
The Old Testament saints are generally referred to as "Righteous", e.g. "the Righteous Noah". These saints are commemorated on the Sunday of the Holy Forefathers, which is the second Sunday before Christmas (Dec 11-17). Noah is mentioned by name in the Vespers service "Come ye feast-lovers, let us extol with hymns the assembly of the forefathers, Adam, the first father, Enoch, Noah, and Melchizedek, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob..." (and possibly mentioned elsewhere).

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Re: Taking A New Name
« Reply #209 on: May 23, 2015, 04:57:07 PM »
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