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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #990 on: October 08, 2014, 12:09:01 AM »

there is no Orthodox Church Investigative Service to send agents out to capture the uncanonical. 



Oh this needs to be rectified...and tshirts need to be involved.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #991 on: October 08, 2014, 12:11:06 AM »
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #992 on: October 08, 2014, 12:17:49 AM »
Actress formerly of NCIS, the show on which our new OCIS is patterned after...(see the hat Pod posted)

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« Reply #993 on: October 08, 2014, 12:21:38 AM »
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« Reply #994 on: October 08, 2014, 12:44:22 AM »
Please post proof that the priest is missing or kidnapped thank you
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #995 on: October 10, 2014, 08:16:20 PM »
No such thing as a Armenian church in Myanmar

No such thing as a WPM in Texas

As far as I can tell, you're the sole heirarch of a church in Myanmar/Burma.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #996 on: October 12, 2014, 09:21:17 PM »
I don't suppose there would be a problem unless you pulled his finger while kissing his hand.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #997 on: October 19, 2014, 04:19:37 AM »
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #998 on: October 19, 2014, 06:23:10 AM »
You shouldn't trust hallucinations either.
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #999 on: October 20, 2014, 01:27:56 PM »
Those who allow Barlaamite theology to infiltrate their graphic design usually end up applying their pagan/worldly philosophies and sciences.

By contrast, here is an example of a non-Barlaamite image, rendered through the right-believing praxis of neptic contemplation:




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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1000 on: October 20, 2014, 02:16:51 PM »
The death rate is not 100% unless it kills you.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1001 on: October 26, 2014, 04:03:10 PM »
I wonder if George Lucas regrets coming up with the story now? :o ??? :P

Yeah, I'm sure it really keeps him awake at night when he's lying atop his mountains of cash.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1002 on: October 27, 2014, 02:57:22 PM »
For many years I have wished to be Russian
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:34

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1003 on: October 29, 2014, 06:55:50 AM »
unfortunately I live in Germany.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1004 on: October 29, 2014, 09:05:27 PM »
What is this obsession with this Bishop? He has simply been restating old news
The day that Orthodox aren't all for restating old news...
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1005 on: October 31, 2014, 03:00:59 PM »
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John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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John 3:18 - He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
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John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
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John 6:40 - And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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John 6:47 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
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John 11:26 - And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Acts 16:31 - And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
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Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

These quotes from Scripture lead me to believe that one must believe in Jesus Christ in order to gain salvation. Why does the Eastern Orthodox Church say that one can not be saved simply by faith, but that one needs Church membership also?

Let us not pick and choose which Bible verses to follow. All of the above MUST be reconciled with:

John 6:53 - "Jesus therefore said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, ye have not life in yourselves."

Only ordained priests can consecrate the Eucharist. Therefore the Church is necessary.

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What of the third-world countries who have the Gospel preached to them by non-Orthodox Christians (Baptists, Lutherans, Non-Denominational Christians)? Will they perish into eternal fire simply because they didn't join the Eastern Church, which they have no knowledge of, even though they came to believe in Christ?

The Catholic Church teaches that those with 'invincible ignorance' will not be damned simply for never encountering the Church. I believe the Orthodox have a similar teaching.

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Also, what of the many Christians who do believe in Jesus Christ? Will they perish simply because they are not a part of your tradition? (I shouldn't even bring that question up because most of you will say, "Oh, but no one knows who will be saved. So, I can not judge.")

What can I say. They are not in the fullness of truth. Whether God will damn them for this or not is not for us to know.

However, Jesus says "if you love me, keep my commandments." That includes obeying your Bishop.

2 Thessalonians 2:15 - "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter."

1 Timothy 3:15 - "If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth."


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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1006 on: November 02, 2014, 06:28:40 PM »
3. Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock - Moses (Exodus 2:16-21)

As a Mexican, I can tell you that one don't work anymore, otherwise a lot more of us would have white wives. We've even tried watering their lawns but that don't work either.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1007 on: November 03, 2014, 04:33:03 PM »
Has any good ever come from speculating about the Apocalypse?

no.

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« Reply #1008 on: November 04, 2014, 03:43:09 PM »
Speculation regarding pooping after consuming the Eucharist.  I think I have seen it all now.
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« Reply #1009 on: November 04, 2014, 03:44:35 PM »
I don't think God would allow the balance of the Universe to be threatened by a 3 year old.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1010 on: November 10, 2014, 01:37:29 AM »
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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« Reply #1011 on: November 10, 2014, 06:08:18 PM »
Never, ever jump into a conversation with a Serbian or a Croat (or for that matter many east European ethnic groups or nationalities) about history.  Critical analysis is usually frowned upon.

This also deserves a POM nomination.  :D
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« Reply #1012 on: November 13, 2014, 07:31:25 PM »
so, i got back really late today and still had to log in before sleeping to check for an update!
i may be too busy tomorrow to log on so will have to be kept in suspense!

how did it go?
may God give you many years
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Its still going on.  That lifetime confession can really take awhile.  :P

No, she is still feeling the glow of purification, illumination, and sanctification.
I do not think she can even walk on land or get those key strokes going on the computer.

p.s. I had difficulty climbing out of the baptismal font. I wanted to stay in there.

Man, I need a cigarette after this.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1013 on: November 13, 2014, 08:28:08 PM »
You are right. I apologize for having sacked Constantinople. I really need to stop doing that.



If it makes you feel any better, if I inherited an empire and became Hitler, I'd sack the Vatican and steal all of its lasagna and submissive women.

Yeah if the Vatican is known for anything, it's for the huge amount of women living there.

That is sarcasm.




This thread just cracked me up!  lol
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« Reply #1014 on: November 13, 2014, 11:33:14 PM »
When I found out my priest was not a clairvoyant, face-shining, finger-flame, levitating-in-the-Uncreated Light, megaloschemaheiromonk...I WAS LIVID.  Thank God, I have pure, unadulterated Greek hatred for the Roman Catholic Church and its Antichrist Pope burning in my nous to get me through every day that God gives me.  This is the cross I must bear for His glory, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages.

Amen.

Prostrations X 1000.

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« Reply #1015 on: November 14, 2014, 12:06:31 AM »
ah, you beat me to it!
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« Reply #1016 on: November 14, 2014, 02:04:26 AM »
Internet Orthodoxy is always perilous and no one should ever take much stock in it-- because it's not real.  Orthodoxy can't be lived out on the internet unless it's fake.
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« Reply #1017 on: November 14, 2014, 06:55:05 PM »
Calvinists, and not only Calvinists, frequently go so far as to claim that the Protestant Reformers were guided by the Holy Spirit (for instance, in selecting which books were the "real" Bible, or in determining how to interpret Scripture, etc). That's pretty much the only way you can interpret the events of the Reformation if you're a monergist. Since the Reformers, in this view, were guided by the Spirit, their decisions and the Confessions (even if not everything the individual reformers wrote) are therefore infallible, or at least as close to infallible as you can get aside from the Scriptures themselves.

That line of reasoning is severely flawed, though. If the Reformers were guided by the Spirit, then the Church Fathers cannot have been, since frequently the two are at odds (for instance, when Calvin threw the Church Fathers under the bus, or when Knox did the same by claiming the men of Calvin's Geneva were the most righteous Christians since the Apostles themselves).

Why would the Holy Spirit leave the church in the 2nd, 4th, or 8th century and then suddenly swoop back in to "reform" in it in the 16th? That doesn't make much sense, unless you claim it was to "fulfill prophecy" (historicists would say exactly that). But it's still a problematic assertion because the Jesus said he would send the Paraclete (Spirit) to guide the Church, but didn't say anything about it ever leaving.

So really, the dispute is over who the "real" Fathers of the church are. Are they the men who lived in the first few centuries, many of whom personally knew the apostles, were part of churches they founded, and/or lived in the same cultural environment as them? Or are they a bunch of 16th century Northern Europeans who had a bone to pick with the Renaissance Popes, and who thought they knew better?
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1018 on: November 14, 2014, 10:00:17 PM »
Yup. I once said "Jiminy Christmas" and someone got all upset because they said it was the same as saying "Jesus Christ". So, I just started using the "F" word after that.
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« Reply #1019 on: November 17, 2014, 01:25:24 PM »
[ EDIT--meh, posted in the wrong thread... ]
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« Reply #1020 on: November 19, 2014, 09:40:43 PM »
He decriminalized Christianity and upheld Orthodox Christianity after the First Council of Nicea. Constantine was praised as a virtuous man by both Christian and pagans alike. He was baptized shortly before he died, but that does not mean that he did not take Christianity seriously.

If he took his Christianity seriously, he would actually have done what Jesus taught.  You know, when God said to "love your enemies", I think he really meant it.

So again, the question stands (I didn't bring up specifics until it was dealt out), would you rather a family man watch your children or a man that put his wife and son to death (after Nicea) in 326. Also murdered hundreds of thousands of people in battle well after Nicea and kept pagan sun God's on his coinage.

Look, I know, blind faith keeps blinding.   Don't look at reality.  Get angry.  Get angry at reality.   Make excuses.  Dodge reality.   

Of course the EO/RC church kisses Constantine's hind quarters, after all, he re-instated the bishops who denied Christ back to power then killed/sent into exile those apposing these bishops.   These "heretics" known as Donatists had no theological difference - they just didn't deny Christ, nor would they allow bishops who denied Christ back to power.   The bishops who denied Christ and gave up their gospels are in lineage to the current EO bishops - and the Donatists who were murdered are just "unforgiving heretics".   The icons in the EO church go to - you guessed it - Constantine.  He even has hymns!

History is most often written by the victors.

It's hard to admit when a saint your church holds as good.

And just to settle it before it comes - sure I'm a sinner.  I have never killed or murdered anybody.  I love my wife, I wouldn't have her executed - I'd rather die.  I also love my sons, I'd die in their stead before I'd have them executed.   I also could not order troops to kill others for almost any reason, let alone imperialism.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1021 on: November 21, 2014, 08:33:22 AM »
Christians are pretty much always depicted as stupid by Hollywood, yet Christians still buy movie tickets and videos.

Then I guess Hollywood is right?

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« Reply #1022 on: November 21, 2014, 04:02:50 PM »
Did St. Constantine run over your dog in a past life or something? 
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« Reply #1023 on: November 22, 2014, 03:43:37 PM »
i think collars were invented by a recently divorced woman
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« Reply #1024 on: November 23, 2014, 03:27:14 PM »
I'm not sure if the thread has a purpose. Is it to look at conservatively dressed women in admiration? Is it to pretend that these women are attractive because they are well covered? Is it an attempt to get us to look for inner beauty?  I have no idea, but it seems like something Yesh would be all over.

This thread is Fabio's way of saying, "I like a little more challenge when I undress women with my eyes."

We all require fetishes. We are unnatural by nature. Some require leather. Some latex. Others the fashion of their great aunts.

Who are we to judge?

So basically we should try to stop the sexual objectification of women by objectifying them in another, even more bizarre way that's probably also sexual in nature in some deep psychologically disturbed way?

Eh, I'll stick with my fetishes. This whole thing is very weird, even by my standards.

Some gems from a recent thread.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1025 on: November 27, 2014, 12:41:17 PM »
The ecumenical councils went beyond simply expressing doctrine. They had a lot of historical baggage bound up with them. The condemnations of some of the most beloved OO saints (e.g. Severus of Antioch) is one problem. Another problem is that, while the OO's may agree that our present interpretation of Chalcedon is Orthodox, the council itself, in its immediate historical context, was very problematic and possible heterodox.

You are worried about implications about someone accepting the substance of councils while not accepting the councils formally. Consider this implication: If the OO's accept the 7 ecumenical councils, they are also admitting that they have been in schism from the Church for over a millennium, that some of their most revered saints were in fact heretics, etc.- in other words, they are only Orthodox insofar was they conform to our traditions. They might as well kiss our feet while they're at it.

Councils are binding insofar as they witness to the truth- they are not binding just because they are councils and they are called "ecumenical." It is the truth, and not a number, that binds. Upholding councils is a mark of Orthodoxy insofar as we are upholding the dogmas proclaimed by them against heretics. If we agree that the OO's are Orthodox, then why do we need to rub the number "7" in their faces? To raise this magic number as a standard of Orthodoxy, above what is actually affirmed doctrinally by the councils in substance, is to introduce the phrase "7 councils" as an article of faith.

Consider what St. Cyril of Alexandria did in his agreement of reunion with John of Antioch. St. Cyril and John of Antioch agreed to a statement of faith which did not require the bishops of Antioch to accept the council of Ephesus. What they did accept was the substance of Ephesus, even as they continued to hold respect for Nestorius, Theodore of Mopsuestia, etc.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1026 on: November 27, 2014, 03:46:12 PM »
Actually, the best topic for 'A New Pastoral Challenge' if one not related to sexual matters, monasticism, fasting, the calendar, schisms or whatever - we who post here and elsewhere are part of the challenge as a real problem confronting real life Bishops, priests and parish communities is this:
 "A New Pastoral Challenge - Dealing with the impact of internet apologetics and the influence of inaccurate or conflicting information about the teachings of the Church spread via social media in the 21st century."   :(
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« Reply #1027 on: November 29, 2014, 01:18:43 AM »
The Law of God is written in all men's hearts. Some of us just do a better job of ignoring it than others.
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« Reply #1028 on: December 03, 2014, 10:52:34 AM »
You've been away a while, so let me get you up to speed: JamesR is an adventurous fellow. Some folks like to travel to places they've never been before; JamesR will never discuss a subject that he knows anything about.
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« Reply #1029 on: December 06, 2014, 11:24:49 AM »
well, maybe my barf bag was too close to my keyboard.

Don't worry about the context, this is great as a stand-alone statement.

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« Reply #1030 on: December 08, 2014, 08:51:56 AM »
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« Reply #1031 on: December 10, 2014, 01:05:15 PM »
I just got word that an article I wrote will be in the next Beard Apologetics Quarterly academic journal. I'm so stoked! I was doing research on it for nearly four years, and not only do I think that my conclusions are pretty solid, but I also think that the data will usher in a new era of beard studies. I can't go into many details before its publication, but the main case I make is that, contrary to the infamous but popular work of Ian Gattlingberg which weaves a mind-numbingly intricate web of relationships between beardlessness, depravity, and ontological nihilism, instead we should strip the debates of all sorts of unnecessary convolutions and look at beardliness as synonymous with holiness and beardlessness as synonymous with wickedness. From this very simple foundation I was then able to build back up the intellectual edifice using basic, fundamental and well-evidenced ideas. It is my contention that this approach gives us a more stable and less speculative foundation on which to base further scientific and philosophical research on beards. Of course most of us intuitively know in our depths that people with beards are holier, but so far we have had difficulty proving it to the satisfaction of the hairless heretics. I think this may be the beginning of the end for them though.
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« Reply #1032 on: December 12, 2014, 02:01:05 PM »
that is funny!

also this:
Forgiveness Sunday..... TONS of clergy/students with beards.   3 kisses each.

My cheeks were never so sore and chaffed in all my life. I paid penance for my sins and was forgiven all at once.  

i actually laughed out loud!

please be gentle when kissing little kids if you have a beard...

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« Reply #1033 on: December 15, 2014, 01:38:59 PM »
I have noticed when I run into any folks from the old church who know I am gone and in another church, the first question they ask is if my new church is "spirit-filled".  Oh, way more than you know, honey.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1034 on: December 16, 2014, 05:57:38 AM »
You've been away a while, so let me get you up to speed: JamesR is an adventurous fellow. Some folks like to travel to places they've never been before; JamesR will never discuss a subject that he knows anything about.

I think that's a bit unfair. To me, JamesR is a young man who has sincere and thoughtful questions. Sometimes he may present his questions in a declarative tone, but I really think he's just asking for sound answers. I applaud him for his intellectual curiosity and his boldness in challenging things that don't make sense to him. Sometimes we think humility means quietly accepting everything we don't understand and piously acquiescing. But I think that humility can also be demonstrated by a bold willingness to confront the status quo, knowing that you will be greatly ridiculed for doing so. JamesR is probably closer to God than many of us on this forum.


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