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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1305 on: August 05, 2015, 01:12:08 PM »
I just came off a 'Moderated' status in this forum and do not wish to return to it so let me put it to you in a following way based on my personal experience.
Growing up all Negroes were deemed morally incapable, so they committed crimes. Everyone knew  Mexicans were lazy, women were inferior in most all things outside of home with the exceptions of nurse for the smartest, librarians or teachers, while all Russians were Communists.
It was portrayed, promulgated and widely accepted overtly and tacitly.
I am more than twice your age and while I consider those days were Golden there were faults and cracks in the base.
Now grow up as one of those mentioned above as YOUR American heritage and come back after being that person.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1306 on: August 10, 2015, 10:06:33 PM »
That looks like my beloved Siamese cat (Memory eternal).  I seriously learned as much about God from my relationship with that most beautiful of His animals, that most majestic beast, that reflects human nature as surelymas we reflect the image of the divine, as I learned from Protestantism before my reception into the Orthodox Church.

Which takes us to a key point: atonement and propotiation theories by themselves, while not wrong, fail adequetely to express the triumph of divine love over death and evil in the Resurrection that enables life everlasting...
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1307 on: August 10, 2015, 11:50:36 PM »
That looks like my beloved Siamese cat (Memory eternal).  I seriously learned as much about God from my relationship with that most beautiful of His animals, that most majestic beast, that reflects human nature as surelymas we reflect the image of the divine, as I learned from Protestantism before my reception into the Orthodox Church.

Which takes us to a key point: atonement and propotiation theories by themselves, while not wrong, fail adequetely to express the triumph of divine love over death and evil in the Resurrection that enables life everlasting...

In retrospect I do realize how that might seem a non sequitur.  I could perhaps explain how it does in fact follow from the experience of the divine love God bestows on creation, but, and this admittedly is a non sequitur, I just had a rather splendid dinner in spite of the Dormition Fast (because my confessor was concerned of my increasingly emaciated appearance), and alas a certain degree of epicurean enjoyment can impede ones abiloty to discourse on things above.   
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1308 on: August 11, 2015, 01:17:39 AM »
In my house, 'Green Martyrdom' is all about the wife trying to get the husband to eat salad or something with vegetables...
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1309 on: August 11, 2015, 02:13:45 PM »
That looks like my beloved Siamese cat (Memory eternal).  I seriously learned as much about God from my relationship with that most beautiful of His animals, that most majestic beast, that reflects human nature as surelymas we reflect the image of the divine, as I learned from Protestantism before my reception into the Orthodox Church.

Which takes us to a key point: atonement and propotiation theories by themselves, while not wrong, fail adequetely to express the triumph of divine love over death and evil in the Resurrection that enables life everlasting...

In retrospect I do realize how that might seem a non sequitur.  I could perhaps explain how it does in fact follow from the experience of the divine love God bestows on creation, but, and this admittedly is a non sequitur, I just had a rather splendid dinner in spite of the Dormition Fast (because my confessor was concerned of my increasingly emaciated appearance), and alas a certain degree of epicurean enjoyment can impede ones abiloty to discourse on things above.

Don't overthink it, man.  :)
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1310 on: August 11, 2015, 02:45:51 PM »
That looks like my beloved Siamese cat (Memory eternal).  I seriously learned as much about God from my relationship with that most beautiful of His animals, that most majestic beast, that reflects human nature as surelymas we reflect the image of the divine, as I learned from Protestantism before my reception into the Orthodox Church.

Which takes us to a key point: atonement and propotiation theories by themselves, while not wrong, fail adequetely to express the triumph of divine love over death and evil in the Resurrection that enables life everlasting...

In retrospect I do realize how that might seem a non sequitur.  I could perhaps explain how it does in fact follow from the experience of the divine love God bestows on creation, but, and this admittedly is a non sequitur, I just had a rather splendid dinner in spite of the Dormition Fast (because my confessor was concerned of my increasingly emaciated appearance), and alas a certain degree of epicurean enjoyment can impede ones abiloty to discourse on things above.

Don't overthink it, man.  :)

you do realise who you are talking to, right?
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1311 on: August 11, 2015, 05:38:31 PM »
I love how Mor is turning this thread into a "Worst of OC.NET" or "Can You Believe Someone Posted This Crap?" thread, instead of what it was originally intended to be.  How subversive of you!
I'm with the camp of 13 million Americans that believe politicians are, or are controlled by, Reptilians. I think only monks can solve this problem. It doesn't seem right that they prefer to ignore it.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1312 on: August 12, 2015, 01:02:22 AM »
Perhaps the greatest post written by any [Oriental] Orthodox Christian on this board:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,37767.msg598527.html#msg598527
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die [...] These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." -The Lord Jesus Christ

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1313 on: August 19, 2015, 09:04:16 AM »
I'm not sure I can take seriously a question about holiness from somebody with Joel Osteen for their profile picture.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1314 on: August 19, 2015, 05:25:30 PM »
The group of adults receiving catechesis I observed, thought they were too basic, which meant they didn't really want to learn much about Odoxy but opine about their journeys to the one true faith. And the Jesus prayer.
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1315 on: August 20, 2015, 01:01:34 AM »
I voted yes, who knows maybe OC.NET might come up with ideas we can bring to our churches  ;)

It certainly has come up with plenty ideas to not bring to church.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1316 on: August 23, 2015, 08:43:22 AM »
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1317 on: August 24, 2015, 03:18:16 PM »

My primary method of determining the merit of a post would be:

Would the soul of poster had been better served by standing before God in prayer rather thhan writing the post in question?

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1318 on: August 25, 2015, 10:39:20 AM »
Ive actually met (online, on a fan forum, not in person; I do have a life) some members of the 501st legion who were militant atheists.  So I am not sure having Stormtroopers engaging in flash-mob violence is desirable in any sense.
I met a football fan once who was a militant atheist. That is why I don't go to football games.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1319 on: August 25, 2015, 11:01:02 AM »
In my house, 'Green Martyrdom' is all about the wife trying to get the husband to eat salad or something with vegetables...

All praise the new martyrs of the Vegan Yoke. Martyred by wife who saw too many PETA videos online. Memory Eternal! ;D

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1320 on: August 25, 2015, 11:45:49 AM »
I know about the Caribbean and certain places like the Banana Republic.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1321 on: August 27, 2015, 11:36:39 AM »
Obligatory: "It's a mystery! Ask your priest/spiritual father. Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. Marital fasting."
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1322 on: August 27, 2015, 04:14:36 PM »
For example, the incoming Yale freshmen were encouraged to read a pornographic book during their summer break. Some students opted out.

I always preferred the labs to the lectures.

After I obtained my graduate degree, I spent a good two years intensively reading Orthodox theology to purify my mind and soul from all the garbage I was required to read in upper division and graduate level English classes.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1323 on: August 28, 2015, 04:00:18 PM »
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1324 on: August 29, 2015, 08:23:05 PM »
You may think it is impossible but I am Oneness Orthodox. I believe in One God. (1 Timothy 2:5).
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1325 on: August 31, 2015, 02:00:50 PM »
It should be a pub.

The Lutheran Arms. There's a nice ring to it, but most people would expect Idris Elba.

Made me chuckle.  ;D

I heard series 4 is supposed to be coming out soon.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1326 on: September 01, 2015, 04:40:59 PM »
Why some people like to stir dust storms, I will never know.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1327 on: September 01, 2015, 11:57:30 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1328 on: September 04, 2015, 09:29:54 AM »
I finally realized the other day why it is that Constantinople seems so concerned with Rome and Antioch/Alexandria/Jerusalem are so concerned with the Oriental Orthodox... That's where the schisms started (well, as far as the concrete division, not just differences).

So as far as reunion talks go. Let Antioch, Jerusalem & Alexandria handle the dialogue with the Copts, Syriacs, Armenians & Malankara. Whenever an agreement is reached, there's no reason that we can't call a general council of all the Patriarchates and have Antioch, Jerusalem & Alexandria present the proposal for consideration...

Patriarchates, get on the ball, reunion is long overdue and I want to see this reunion between us and the Oriental Orthodox happen, as God wills, in my lifetime.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1329 on: September 05, 2015, 01:20:41 AM »
If you can't have an ecumenical council without the West, why is he called "Ecumenical" Patriarch?
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1330 on: September 06, 2015, 07:38:13 PM »
Yes, the private forums are frightfully scary, in that ad hominems are allowed and encouraged.
It is the one place in this forum where people can vent and spit snake venom at each other.

Tread lightly.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1331 on: September 08, 2015, 10:34:45 PM »
That article on Fr. Z's blog is amusing:

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In a nutshell, it is now possible to reduce the number of full judges in a tribunal to one cleric with the assistance of some lay people, who can now be in the majority. Diocesan bishops are encouraged by the new procedures to look at cases themselves (which would mean that – in their copious free time – bishops who aren’t canonists may be in over their heads and will have to rely on experts anyway… like a judicial vicar).....

....Time to digest this is needed, but this seems like another antinomian blow leveled at Roman centralism.  I’ll add that we learned by watching Protestant chaos what happens when there is no oversight from an authority.

So bishops can't be trusted to get this right, got it. But wait! (Fr. Z quotes WaPo):

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Martens said the way Francis changed the annulment process was unusual, because he did not go through the Synod on the Family, as expected, in October. [It takes some things off the table for the Synod, which explains something of the timing of this.]

“If I were a bishop, I would be upset,” Martens said. “It’s a bit strange and even a sign of contradiction that a pope who is big on consultation and collegiality seems to forget that on something like this. It’s highly unusual for legislation like this to get through that way.”

Blown up with your own bomb, RCC. How can one complain about this attack on Roman centralism and bishops who will be in over their heads with such matters, and then in the next breath bemoan that there's no collegiality and these same bishops didn't have a chance to weigh in?
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1332 on: September 09, 2015, 07:08:20 PM »
I don't think the saints care about what Wikipedia says about them. 

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1333 on: September 10, 2015, 01:49:26 AM »
You still don't. You're missing the forest for the trees.

Or rather, LBK, you're lost in the wrong forest.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1334 on: September 10, 2015, 01:29:39 PM »
I was content with watching the fireworks and thought it would die pretty soon after Mor piped up, but evidently not.

It was not stated it was not a proper term.  It was stated it was not a translation of Theotokos.  Tokos is Birthgiver.  Mater is Mother.  Theotokos is Birthgiver of God literally translated.  Substituting Mother of God is ok but it is a substitution not a translation.

You get it.

You still don't. You're missing the forest for the trees.

Or rather, LBK, you're lost in the wrong forest.

Here's what Hawkeye said:

I think with English some words simply can't be helped, Theotokos being one of them. Better to assimilate it fully rather then adopt such ugly constructions as "Birthgiver of God" or use false translations like Mother of God.

His position is that Mother of God is unsuitable for liturgical use in English, a position which is untenable for a variety of reasons. I don't need to repeat them.

That is certainly not my position.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the phrase "Mother of God" and I see no reason why it can't be used liturgically. However, it is not a direct translation of "Theotokos" and I simply think that it would be preferable to be as accurate as possible when rendering foreign words and phrases into English. That's not to say that "Mother of God" cannot be used in place of "Theotokos," only that we can do better. And if we can't, then maybe "Theotokos" is fine as it is.

Hawkeye, how many decades of experience do you have understanding yourself?

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« Reply #1335 on: September 11, 2015, 10:06:01 AM »
The Catholic Faith is defined by whomever is currently sitting on the Papal cathedra. I don't think that's what we mean when we say "Truth is a Person."

LOL!!
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« Reply #1336 on: September 12, 2015, 09:07:39 AM »
I like when ladies wear headscarves.  It distracts me from their short skirts.

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« Reply #1337 on: September 16, 2015, 08:56:02 AM »
I like when ladies wear headscarves.  It distracts me from their short skirts.
Or their low necklines....at least thats how it is in my Church.

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« Reply #1338 on: September 16, 2015, 08:57:18 PM »
I like when ladies wear headscarves.  It distracts me from their short skirts.
Or their low necklines....at least thats how it is in my Church.

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Especially when the scarves kind of swoop low around the neck.  Very ascetic.
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« Reply #1339 on: September 17, 2015, 02:58:41 AM »
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« Reply #1340 on: September 17, 2015, 08:56:07 AM »
God bless!

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1341 on: September 17, 2015, 10:41:57 AM »
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1342 on: September 17, 2015, 02:08:15 PM »
From the Private Forum:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,64771.msg1321279.html#msg1321279
Isn't there a Private Forum Quotable Quotes Thread for that?
before there was a thread for that, we still shared links to there here without showing the quote :)
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1343 on: September 17, 2015, 02:15:31 PM »
From the Private Forum:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,64771.msg1321279.html#msg1321279
Isn't there a Private Forum Quotable Quotes Thread for that?
before there was a thread for that, we still shared links to there here without showing the quote :)
I do remember that now that you mention it.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1344 on: September 18, 2015, 12:04:20 AM »
The title says it all. What steps can I take to avoid convertitis?
What are the symptoms?
(Seriously, what is "convertitis"?)

It is the inflammation of the conversion system.  The pathology leads to a sudden and quick release of the conversion hormone, followed by tbe burning out of the conversion organ where there is no more hormone left.  Side effects include chanting the loudest, cheek spasticity due to overwhelming straining of the smile, neck strains due to over-indulgence of acting humble, correcting parishioners and priests mistakes, and praying all the hours of the prayer book at first shot.  Eventually, the exact opposite will occur, including not chanting, not praying, acting with snark, and skipping out on liturgies.

Ask your priest today if you need to slow it down and receive guidance. ;)
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1345 on: September 18, 2015, 04:03:57 PM »
I'm not sure if figuring out how to retain your poo at will is the apogee of spiritual progress.
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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1346 on: September 21, 2015, 11:17:11 AM »
I think its a question of what we consider a "demon" ... Could be supernatural or phenomenological.

What does a phenomenological demon look like?

Possessing a type of anger and is wolfish.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1347 on: September 21, 2015, 10:52:19 PM »
I think its a question of what we consider a "demon" ... Could be supernatural or phenomenological.

What does a phenomenological demon look like?

Possessing a type of anger and is wolfish.

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1348 on: September 22, 2015, 09:00:56 AM »
I think its a question of what we consider a "demon" ... Could be supernatural or phenomenological.

What does a phenomenological demon look like?

Possessing a type of anger and is wolfish.

+1

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Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Reply #1349 on: October 06, 2015, 03:31:04 PM »
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